Dave_minall

OK then, lets go slightly off topic... IF there were to be a scottish, irish or welsh rider in the WC, who is most likely to get there?

A quality point was made by David Howe over twitter - he said that the Joker shouldn't be allowed unless you are 8 points behind - that way you can't pull back the entire deficit in 1 race.

It seems that it is impossible for some people to be satisfied - my point wasn't aimed at the lack of patriotism, as this country seems to only have that whenever something like this is in town (football included) I was merely making a point that if you don't like what is provided, don't watch it.

And why do you like speedway again? The likes of you are more suited to football thanks

A few riders have started using them new - I believe I've heard of Batchelor, K Bjerre, Harris and Bunyan using them now. There is a simple lanyard attachment that comes from around the riders stomach attaches to the frame and when this is pulled the jacket inflates around the chest, back and coccyx. I do believe that they're quite difficult to prepare after they've gone off though, hence why Harris didn't reattach his jacket to his bike after the first time it went off.

I'd love to see this, but I can't see them fitting a crowd there like we saw at KL last night. It won't go there for that specific reason.

This is too tense, I can't hack it!

Did you know Mark Webber is there tonight?

It wasn't until a 2nd viewing that told me how good heat 20 was - amazing race! I think the final 4 races tonight should be just as good, providing the weather holds up.

It'd be interesting to know how the track was for practice. Anybody on here know? Fingers crossed for oodles of grip like the old PL days.

It shall be run tuesday night instead. if that is called off I don't know! You can bet that (with the current forecast) we will see track covers for the first time on TV in the UK for it.

Going off topic from the GP somewhat but here's my view on the British final: I'm still perplexed as to why this is never on a neutral track that doesn't feature in the elite league. We all know how good Sheffield's facilities have come on, and it's a huge track so naturally can hold more spectators. Even Berwick have proved how they can handle the big meetings - why pick a track where the home track advantage is so strong? edit (further point): Even somewhere like Birmingham wouldn't be too bad. Good facilities and relatively new in the EL so it won't provide too much support to home riders. Plus I've heard it's a relatively neutral track anyway in regards to giving home riders the edge over visitors.

It would be interesting to have a facility where there is a reserve on standby who can take rides if a team is below a certain point. Unless this is a rule already?!

Auty, Barker, Roynon, Daniel Greenwood and Tom Perry all came from grasstrack backgrounds.

Now that certainly made a few people eat their words!

there's 5 riders for Denmark - who is to be left out of event 1 then?

Without banging the drum too much on how much better the GP system is compared to the old one off world finals, at the last GP Freddie Lindgren (had it be a one off) would now be world champion, but we know on a consistency basis, he's really not that special! Again this proves the theory that the GP series is better!

Imagine if it was Fisher? He'd win by default

Jason Crump. I think he'll do a Loram, keeping a low profile throughout the season, make lots of semis and finals, and then dominate near the end.

I agree. It hurts to think this way but sadly I think it's right

Haha good call - I mean 25% of them are race-able and provide fairly decent racing. In my opinion a lot of GP racing is processional as the tracks are too slick.

Hi Phil, it's just another angle on things, we know some riders favour the slick and also with the grip, but we rarely get to see the latter in action. At the end of the day the riders have to adapt to all track conditions, but we never get to physically see this as most of the tracks are slick (lets be honest, 75% of GPs are slick lately)

I agree, Tai is a much more polished rider than Bomber as of late, but I still think he would struggle in the GPs should he get through next year. I'd LOVE to be proved wrong though.

I remember years ago Denmark tracked a VERY young side in a test match against GB, that team was Hans Andersen, Kenneth Bjerre, Puk and a few other names I can't remember. They were criticised for it at the time as GB gave them a trouncing, but the team tracked then are now top class mature riders. Britain's team then? I believe it was David Norris, Mark Loram, Dean Barker, Scott Nicholls and perhaps Rico. A sign of how far behind we were even back then.

Really? Another revamp? Your attention span must be beyond short. The current format simply works. That's all we can ask for, As mentioned earlier the tracks are what need the most attention. Every other saturday I always go in thinking 'we're in for another slick one' How many times have we been treated to a GP where there was actually too much grip? only once in my memory. It's another side to the coin that the GPs very rarely venture into.