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Nothing is perfect Sidney and speedway is far from it.I have a good moan on here every now and then as we all do. But my point is that we and others still find enjoyment in the sport and attend meetings.Whats not to like about the racing I see every meeting at the NSS,i to love to watch the young riders improve I watch all the Colts meetings as well and I am very much looking forward to watch Lidsey ride next season and that's why I come on a speedway forum to read and talk speedway.because I still have an interest in the sport There is much wrong with our sport but I still enjoy the bare bones of the sport the racing and if I ever get so disillusioned with the sport and it Pee's me of that much that I no longer enjoy any of it I will just walk away and find another interest and you will never here me moaning on about why I fell out with the sport on here I will just find pastures new and leave the forum for people who still enjoy speedway to talk about speedway no one wants to be bored to death reading about the reasons why I will have fell out with the sport people will form their own opinions without any help from me.Plus I will be busy doing something new.

Sorry to but into the Lynn thread.But I have to say I can understand that people can lose their love/ interest in anything for whatever reason.But what I cannot understand is if you have lost your love /interest in anything in this case speedway why o why do you need to come on a speedway forum and even watch it on tv (a GP goes on for three and a half hours with only seven extra heats). I lost love/interest in my first wife I do not stalk her on face book etc I have had no contact in 25 years and I moved on and re married.I lost interest in football I could not tell you the name of anyone who now plays for my ex team and I do not watch it on tv my interest is now with speedway.I have moved jobs a few times over the years I have no idea how my ex companys are doing I have no interest I concentrate on my new job and how my new company is doing. All I am saying is that you have to move on in life find new love/interests and enjoy them and leave the past behind I think you will find life's a happier place.

Phew, thank goodness for that, head in a better place now.

How good is Lidsey. For Belle vue to be prepared to leave out Bjerre for a rider with potential and run with only 2 heat leaders I m o is madness.With the added worry of what form Bewley and Worrall will be in next season after their bad injurys this year.If this is the case and we leave out both Cook and Tungate for 2 second strings it could be a long season.

There was nothing wrong with the league the way it was, it was doing its job producing some great racing to watch and producing a good number of riders good enougth to move up to the championship league.It was also giving the paying public value for money with a mix of riders good enough to produce some quality speedway racing and the chance to watch youngsters improve over the season a perfect mix to get me to part with my money.I have bought a season ticket every year for the Colts but next year I will not be doing so I will go to a few meetings and then form an opinion if the product on show is good enough for me to part with my money. My worries are. The Colts have already lost Smith and Perry next year who produced some quality/great racing round the NSS who is going to do this next year. I don't know but say we keep Bickley as our number 1 we might see some great races against the opposing teams number 1 but in his other races there is a good chance that he will be riding on his own well in front of the other riders in the race, this I have no interest in watching.(Will others ?.) The more talented youngsters improve very fast (Bewley,Kemp etc) and at some stage in the year to improve further need to ride against better riders there wont be many of them around to do this. The way it is now a rider that ends the season with a high average is a good indication that he is ready to be given a chance in the Champ league.Next season will this be the case a rider that ends up with a high average will he be good enough/ready to be given a chance as this average will have been achived by racing against less talented riders. We may lose a good few talented riders who cant or are not quite ready to get a Champ league place but who's average is to high to get a team place in the Nat league Some of the riders that get a Champ league place spot may still need to race Nat league to help them improve further and keep their confidence up if they are finding it hard in the Champ league. My biggest worry is yes the National league is a development league but for people to pay their money(for some teams its not much less than the higher leagues) and turn up you have to give them a product that will give them value for money and entertain them ie good speedway racing.For me the product next year from seasons past looks like its going to be a lot poorer than previous seasons.As I say I will give it a try but if I am disappointed I am lucky I can just go back to just watching the Aces.But to me these changes could cause the sport to lose even more supporters when to me the product was fine and needed no changes what so ever. I have a few other reasons going round in my head but the above reasons above should get my point of view across.but to me its just another worry for the future of the sport I love.

As a supporter of a championship club (fingers crossed for your club)I would not harp on about Prem class riders riding in the champ league.They are only there for the extra money.Before this crazy doubleing up most of them would have moved up to the prem league already,and if they do stop it next year most of them will choose to ride in the prem league, for most clubs better wages tougher races for their improvment etc.Which would leave the champ league short of most of its major talent and I think that would inc Bewley and Klindt. The way it should be really and the way it was for many years before the dreaded doubling up which has damaged the sport big time.

True if Tungate cannot be fitted into the team next year we will miss out on some breath taking speedway the guy is awesome round the NSS one thing is for sure whoever he signs for will be a lot harder to beat round the NSS with him in the team.Plus any team needing a guest he will be their first choice and could cause us some real damage over a season.If he can be fitted into the team we would be mad to let him go sadly for him and us he had to good a season this year and his average is a little high for team building for next year.Lets hope they keep a fairly high points limit so we can keep him.

Really glad to read this news.In this time of doom and gloom for many speedway clubs if Brandon can re-open it would put a big smile on every speedway fans face across the country.I for one have really missed Coventry's visits to Belle vue you were always the club I loved to hate lol.Wishing you all the very best in your quest and will keep my fingers crossed that you are soon back at the tapes. KEEP UP THE FIGHT.

I must be one of the few that does not mind track grading.At Belle vue the grading keeps the dirt where it should be and helps to produce some awesome racing.

I do believe that you are on a wind up. A big percentage of people earn less than £10 an hour bills are going up and up and the leisure pound is getting less and less. People now have to pick and choose what they spend it on and in my opinion its a big reason why speedway gates are down.It would seem when people have to pick and choose speedway is way down on the list and are going every now and again instead of every week. Well done for doing well in life but a hell of a lot of people are not in the same boat.

If Poland only use a few Fridays you would think that with a well thought out fixture list (for once) clubs could avoid any Fridays when their riders are involved in a meeting in Poland.I am sure my club Belle vue would love to go back to Fridays.A big ask but with a little cooperation from Poland to stick to Fridays that are on the fixture list at the start of the season and I think this could be possible. You would think that it is in Polands own interest to keep speedway running in Britain as over the years we have produced/helped bring on a lot of quality riders who now grace the Polish leagues without us a good few of these riders could never have been given the chance/meetings needed to improve to the level they have. Same with Sweden there are not that many meetings run in Sweden only 1 home and 1 away meeting shared between Tue and Thur with good fixture planning I would think these fixtures could be avoided.It just needs a lot of though and countries for once to work together(ie any Thurs rain off rearrange for a Tuesday) like a professional sport. Otherwise we have no bloody days left to run speedway other than Mondays if this is the case I m o speedway here is as good as over.

That's the truth in a nut shell its all about the money nothing to do with sport. I agree that the play offs bring in the crowds and fill the promoters coffers for a few meetings. But what I do wonder is how much harm in the long run they do to the sport,most times that a team that does not finish top of the league wins the play offs we get threads like this one which over the years has caused many many pd off fans. Because of weakened teams due to injuries,poor guests, teams strengthening for the plays offs alleged rule breaking plus many more reasons to p off fans. My team have finished top of the league twice and lost the play offs both times I was gutted and mega pd off and at the time looking for all the unfair reasons why we lost yet I was not that bothered at all when reaching the play offs and losing when not finishing top. It just makes me wonder for how many fans has the play offs been the final straw and made them walk away from the sport.After supporting your team all YEAR watching/willing them on to win the joy of away wins and in the end the happiness of toping the league then over a few matches its all over and you win sod all is gutting.I must admit at the time it left me very disillusioned with the sport and walking away did cross my mind but I got over it and am still here but how many others are not.

Sorry but a track that produces mainly processional racing in my opinion is an awful track and is a major cause of people walking away from speedway. Fans want to see speedway racing not follow the leader boring speedway.

Totally agree with todays bikes if a track is to grippy a rider gates and is gone with little or no chance of even catching him let alone pass him. At the NSS if the track is to grippy the racing is very poor and we get gate and go speedway,eg world team cup semi the track was very grippy which led to fast but very processional racing even with the best riders in the world on show.For the final it was a lot slicker which lead to racing that was out of this world.

Well done Kings Lynn well deserved win you battered us and good luck in the final. But I must say having now watch a meeting at Lynn I now understand why this thread is full of moans and complaints about the racing there the track is truly awful.

People do have a point re big names bringing in the crowds.We had at Kirky lane one of the worlds greatest riders in Jason Crump yet the crowds are still bigger at the NSS,and I for one and I think a lot of Belle vue fans would agree get as big a buzz from watching Dan Bewley ride as I did watching Jason Crump. Get the product right first ie no doubleing up, slicker run meetings,run with your own one to seven bar injury,well thought out even fixture list, with time spent avoiding any overseas clashes etc. Even if we loose the few bigger names we have left the league will produce its own stars in time eg in the championship Craig Cook is a big name rider in that league and I would think would put numbers on the gate. Two of the best races I have seen this year have included Cook and Fricke against Jason Doyle and Jack Holder swaping places throughout the race.Up against Doyle these three riders would be considered to be lesser riders but they held there own and even beat Doyle so if a few of the bigger name riders are missing next year I do not think the standard of racing we have watched this year will drop in the slightest,and the likes of these three riders will become the leagues top riders.

Well done Kings lynn. But if we are all honest did anyone really expect anything different.Well done to my injury hit Belle vue team(and I still include Worrall nowhere near the rider he was yet)for giving us a little hope of a shock result for half the meeting.A big thank you to Jye for a good performance for the team that sacked you Would now love to see Kings lynn go on to win there long awaited top league title(for the fans not so much for their management). P S There is room in my 2019 Belle vue team for a return of M P Toft great performance.

North and south split could be the way to go more chance of attracting away fans cut costs etc. But the down side depending which league they are in fans will never get to see half of the better riders riding in Britain which for me would be a big miss which puts me off the idea a little. The massive down side would be if our all knowing BSPA allow doubling up between north and south leagues making the play off final a total farce.(sadly we all know this sort of ruling is not beyond them). Which ever way they go I only hope they have spent plenty of time planning and thinking this over and that its a done deal before the usual what seems like they all never agree rush job AGM . Whatever they come up with has to work a lot better than what we have now the future of British speedway depends on it fingers crossed for once they get it right.

Was he right at the moment he's found a place to live for free.

Yes I do Bruno season ticket holder for both the Aces and the Colts so I am lapping it up.As I say speedway heaven.

The reason i m o that last weeks race seemed better is the fact that you watched it live.It might seem crazy but watching both heat 13s on screen left me feeling a little disappointed after watching both live. Live speedway at the NSS(as is any speedway) is so much better as you are sat close to the action looking down right on top of the track.To me on screen the riders don't seem to be going anywhere near as fast and you can appreciate more how close the riders are racing with each other plus the noise and crowd reaction etc.On screen the races were brilliant, live the were out of this world and speedway heaven. If you have not yet seen live speedway at the NSS it just has to be on your bucket list.

As a speedway fan of 46 years (and this is just my point of view)if speedway goes the way of a troupe of riders picked at random from a group of 60 or so then for me speedway will be a thing of the past. As with any sport you need a team or an individual to support in team speedway I support Belle vue in individual meetings I tend to support Belle vue riders, in the G P i support Woffinden because he is British or any other Brit plus any rider who ride's/rode for Belle vue and I get a buzz if any of the riders I support wins a race or the meeting etc without a team or rider to support where is the meaning where does the buzz or disappointment come from.Without a team how would you form a bond with a rider for you to support him in a individual meeting so without someone to follow it would just be 20 races with no meaning with the odd great pass/race to enjoy but that would be it for me. I watch the Polish/Swedish league on TV but if I am honest I enjoy the odd great race and a race with a Belle vue rider in it but without the passion of watching my team or if watching a British league match which has meaning because the result affects my teams place in the table.I can honestly say in a lot of meetings I can sadly see why a lot of people say that its gate and go and that speedway is boring. So in my eyes team speedway keeps me going every week because having a team to support gives me a passion for the sport and every meeting i watch means something. Just one other point you mention the great crowds at Cardiff.This is a one off meeting held once a year and fans from all the clubs in Britain attend plus for a lot its their only meeting of the year.If they had 10 meetings a year at Cardiff with the best riders in the world let alone a random line up from a pool of 20 riders do you think they would get anywhere near the numbers they get for a one off meeting I don't. Again the above is just my opinion but it just shows what a tough job the BSPA have in front of them for every change the make one fan will love it the other will hate it, good luck to them.

Says the man who (allegedly) earned a few bob filming such activity lol.

Yes I would agree jacks gating is a weakness.I watch him every meeting for the Colts and he is great to watch against riders of his own ability he passes riders from the back for fun if he misses the gate.Which in the higher leagues is a lot harder to do. I do feel he has stagnated a little this year he finished last year on a 8.20 average and this year he is at present on 8.30 but this year he is now riding at number 1. I don't know and only my own thoughts but getting dropped by Sheffield and struggling at Swindon might have affected his confidence. I hope that next year he can have a full season in the Championship league and leave the Premier league out for now he's not ready yet.He is a great little rider with bundles of talent He just needs a full season in the Champ league and time to develop and he will show what talent he really has.

I hope that Toms points were all down to him I love to see a young Brit doing well.But looking on the down side Woryna seemed to have had a nightmare of a meeting and was it Jacobsens 1st meeting on the track 1st ride set up problems then after that seemed to get it right and scored well after that and a point from a 3 rider race.All I am saying here is if this is the case Jack could have scored the same points as Tom.One meeting is hard to judge if one rider is better than another.