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Congratulations on Cradley's first league title since 1983 in 2014.

What about this for a team without Birks (even though it doesn't put Auty third in the averages but I can't find anyone between Mellgren & Auty that isn't Birks or L. Lindgren): 1. Anders Mellgren 7.33 2. Carl Wilkinson 5.59 3. David Howe 6.34 4. Thomas Jorgensen 6.15 5. Josh Auty 7.24 6. Ryan Douglas 5.03 7. Lewis Blackbird 4.81 (with 2.5% reduction) Total: 42.48 Without Jorgensen: 1. Anders Mellgren 7.33 2. Hugh Skidmore 5.65 3. David Howe 6.34 4. Ashley Birks 7.12 (with 2.5% reduction) 5. Josh Auty 7.24 6. Ryan Douglas 5.03 7. Joe Jacobs 3.53 (the new asset?) Total: 42.24 Without Jorgensen or Birks: 1. Anders Mellgren 7.33 2. Carl Wilkinson 5.59 3. David Howe 6.34 4. Nicolai Klindt 6.93 5. Josh Auty 7.24 6. Ryan Douglas 5.03 7. Jake Anderson 3.97 (the new asset?) Total: 42.49

It's too early to be saying who you'd like to see until Rye are actually confirmed imo... but hey, here goes: 1. Simon Lambert 9.46 2. Shane Hazelden 4.77 3. David Mason 6.38 4. Ben Hopwood 6.89 5. Kyle Hughes 6.22 6. 3.00 7. 3.00 I must add, not that I want Ben to leave!

I believe at present there's no rule stopping you do all 3, which is why R. Worrall & Roynon tripled-up a couple of years ago.

Which is why Starke's large average doesn't look so big imo and the likes of Jacobs, Worrall, Bates, Rose, Morley, Clegg & Carr could do very well next year. How about this: 1. Steve Worrall 7.09 2. Dan Greenwood 5.74 3. Max Clegg 6.27 4. Liam Carr 6.87 5. Tom Perry 6.30 6. Michael Neale 3.00 7. Nathan Greaves 4.00

I meant Simon also. As iand says he now has a 3.00 PL average.

I think there will be a rule change also,but there doesn't need to be for Lambert to ride NL as his PL average is 3.00.

Currently a rider must have a PL average of below 4.00 to double down. The ratio is 0.6, the same as EL to PL, but the rider would use an old NL/CL average rather than converting his PL average.

Buxton Hitmen 1. Tony Atkin 7.75 2. Stefan Farnaby 3.00 3. Tom Woolley 3.64 4. Ryan Blacklock 4.43 5. Liam Carr 6.87 6. Adam Extance 3.00 7. Sean Phillips 3.00 Total: 31.69 Remaining: 8.21 Coventry Storm 1. Stefan Nielsen 8.00 2. Luke Crang 4.78 3. Oliver Greenwood 6.89 4. Dan Greenwood 5.74 5. James Sarjeant 7.38 6. Martin Knuckey 3.00 7. Ryan Terry-Daley 3.00 Total: 38.81 Remaining: 1.19 Cradley Heathens 1. Paul Starke 9.93 2. Nathan Greaves 4.00 3. Tom Perry 6.30 4. Max Clegg 6.27 5. Steve Worrall 7.09 6. Matt Williamson 3.33 7. Danny Phillips 3.00 Total: 39.92 Remaining: 0.08 Devon Demons 1. Tim Webster 8.30 2. Dan Stoneman 4.29 3. Lee Smart 5.76 4. Matt Bates 4.47 5. Ben Reade 7.70 6. Richard Andrews 3.41 7. James Shanes 3.46 Total: 37.39 Remaining: 2.61 Kent Kings 1. Simon Lambert 9.46 2. Luke Chessell 4.22 3. David Mason 6.38 4. Benji Compton 6.37 5. Ben Morley 7.13 6. Dan Blake 3.40 7. Brandon Freemantle 3.00 Total: 39.96 Remaining: 0.04 King's Lynn Young Stars 1. Lewis Rose 6.76 2. James Cockle 6.24 3. Darren Mallett 6.04 4. Darryl Ritchings 5.94 5. Kyle Hughes 6.22 6. Josh Bailey 3.00 7. Scott Campos 4.54 Total: 38.74 Remaining: 1.26 Leicester (National Trophy only) 1. James Sarjeant 2. Dan Greenwood 3. Tom Perry 4. Max Clegg 5. Oliver Greenwood 6. James Shanes 7. Tom Woolley Mildenhall Fen Tigers 1. Joe Jacobs 8.71 2. Jack Kingston 4.20 3. Josh Bates 7.49 4. Brendan Johnson 4.84 5. Danny Halsey 7.43 6. Connor Mountain 3.00 7. Connor Coles 3.67 Total: 39.34 Remaining: 0.66 Scunthorpe Stags 1. Steve Jones 5.33 2. Ryan Macdonald 3.00 3. Danno Verge 3.00 4. Danny Ayres 3.00 5. Arron Mogridge 3.00 6. Liam Sanderson 3.00 7. Reece Downes 3.00 8. Tyler Govier Total: 23.33 Remaining: 16.67 Stoke Potters 1. Ben Wilson 10.17 2. Chris Widman 3.50 3. Ben Hopwood 6.89 4. Lee Payne 4.90 5. Jon Armstrong 7.93 6. Rob Shuttleworth 3.00 6. James McBain 3.00 Total: 39.39 Remaining: 0.61

I really do hope Scunthorpe come back. The best club in the country for talent for the last few years!

15.33 left for 3 riders so not both of those! About the best trio imo are Jensen, Anderson & Starke but I think Benko will struggle even if he is at reserve!

Reignites the debate of why isn't a 3.00 Brit in (which Chessell himself is and tbh Chessell isn't up to PL standard)?

You didn't follow the NL very closely then. He started at reserve & I'm sure if scored about 19 from 7 and I think he hit a maximum when he was alongside Lambert and he got about 15 from 7 to win the meeting at Kent. He carried on that form into the main body before he got injured (I think it was a dislocated shoulder). He's a talent and might not do a Kerr but I expect to see him push the 5.00 figure, maybe 4.50. He's definitely one of the best 3.00 riders & if EL sides have any chance he'll be one of the best B grade reserves and should get picked soon!

He had an operation on his leg in June and sold most of his gear, but he kept some because he said he wants to come back if he can.

That was the one that screamed at me too! But a few EL snobs seem to think he's the same rider he was a few years ago so maybe the promoters do too...

Riders with a PL average above 4.00 cannot double-up. However if a rider is in an NL declaration, and not PL at the start of the season but signs for a PL team mid season he can double-up if his average is below 5.00 (eg Wright this year). Therefore the following riders are ineligibke for NL next year if they sign for a PL team: Blackbird, Morris, Wright, Ellis, Nielsen, Kerr & Boxall.

With the likes of Blackbird, Ellis, Wright and Boxall set to be ineligible for next years' NL, he may turn out to be the top rider in the division which will surely only help his confidence and increase his PL scores!

That's because I run the account Look at my signature But seriously, I hope they do return! In terms of youth development I truly believe that Scunthorpe are one of the best this century.

Blackbird has far more potential.

Any suggestions as to who those might be?

Coventry confirmed last month that they will definitely be running NL in 2014. I'm just hoping the Islanders state likewise! I don't think it's clear cut that Dudley will be back either as they could go PL with the 14H/14A league fixtures allowing themselves, Peterborough and one other to join. I'm sure it would be beneficial for EL teams to run a NL team to give their reserves home track time, and for the likes of KL who have done this for several years already that's why I think they deserve to have Lambert & Kerr at reserve despite it being easily the strongest pair in the league... Sticking with NL, BV ran the Colts a couple of years ago, Poole ran Bournemouth, Birmingham ran the Bulls in challenge meetings and I'm sure Leicester could sustain NL racing, so even though I don't think we'll see mre than 8 teams at the tapes I think it would be worthwhile for some EL teams (other than Coventry & KL) to invest! Anyone heard anything about a return for Scunthorpe Saints?

1. Nick Morris 8.84 2. Lewis Blackbird 4.93 3. Leigh Lanham 7.16 4. Cameron Heeps 6.74 5. Rohan Tungate 7.05 6. Josh Bates 3.00 7. Adam Ellis 4.25 Several other options at #1: Worrall, Grajczonek, Lawson... Thoughts?

And what will happen with regards to averages as Stoke's are obscured by having ridden 2 less home meetings therefore making their riders more attractive propositions. The same can be said to KL to a lesser extent and Dudley, Kent & Mildenhall all have slightly higher figures.

Maybe 1. Richie Worrall 8.64 2. Jan Graversen 5.25 3. Josh Auty 7.24 4. Tero Aarnio 6.86 5. Sam Masters 7.43 6. 3.00 7. Ryan Douglas 5.03 It does seem harsh on Jorgy, Howe & Blackbird though! I hope I'm wrong because that doesn't look league winning, but I noticed Richie tweeted that he's sorted a British team for 2014.

Couldn't agree more! Also I'd like to see both reserves, at the start of the season, need to be 3.00 riders.