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You say riders not used by their parent club are always available on loan. Have you told Peterborough that.
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THAT is quite easily overcome. Sign him on a long-term contract. Then if they cannot include him in their team they can quite legally and justifiably ask for a transfer fee. I haven't seen a complete asset list for some time (don't even know if the BSPA have one) but last time I did it included riders who had long since hung up their leathers. We are not talking about property or pieces of furniture but human beings. They have rights. Slavery was abolished long ago.
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BUT Bosman determined that players out of contract were free to move elsewhere, which is where the analogy with speedway is relevant. Of course not ... it is not the same thing at all.
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ALSO posted this on the Swindon (Elite League) section ... IT'S not a restriction on earning, it's a restriction of trade. The fact that they ride elsewhere is (in my opinion) irrelevant. As a self-employed tradesman any restriction on a rider "trading his wares" so to speak is surely illegal? I was quite heavily involved in soccer journalism at the time of the Bosman ruling and have always thought that British speedway would have to toe the line one day. I still do. SS has asked the question of many promoters over the years but they generally close ranks and say that it would be the ruination of British speedway. Presumably they include "rider assets" on their balance sheets. Scrapping the asset system might result in some short term pain but could prove hugely beneficial in the longer term and might actually become a more practical and workable form of rider distribution than some of the artificial and contrived methods currently in use.
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JUST copy and paste it here....
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THE rider asset dilemma is the inevitable consequence of British clubs continually changing the regulations regarding team strengths each year ... one eight point rider per team, two, only two from the top 20, points limits, etc. At the end of each season a number of riders are unable to start a new season with the same track as they finished the previous one because their average rather than their face doesn't fit and become "assets" that are either unused or sent out on loan. If these riders were simply released as being out-of-contract a bigger pool of riders would be available for all and sundry.
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SKY did handle the TV production at Cardiff - one of their largest outside broadcast operations of the year in any sport. It is the 'host' broadcasters who handle the production in each country ... Sky in the UK, TV2 in Sweden, DK4 in Denmark, Canel+ in Poland. In some countries the Polish or Danish companies are brought in to do the job. They provide the pictures for the World feed which all the accredited broadcasters can take. Sky will also have some cameras for their exclusive use at Cardiff, just as the Poles will in Poland, the Danes in Denmark and the Swedes in Sweden. If Sky do in fact pull out of SGP coverage in 2013, BSI/IMG will have to make alternative plans for the World feed and TV production at Cardiff but that is something IMG in particular are used to.
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New Zealand Gp.
PHILIPRISING replied to STARRGAZER1's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
TOO far to walk but not far or expensive in a cab ... -
What Gp To See
PHILIPRISING replied to michaelcroucher's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
RALLYCROSS, unlike speedway, has many major vehicle and component manufacturers involved ... far easier to attract both advertising and sponsors than speedway which, sadly, exists, within its own little bubble. -
What Gp To See
PHILIPRISING replied to michaelcroucher's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
THE motorsports division at IMG, under Global Head of Motorsports Rob Armstrong , the man who brokered the speedway deal with former BSI chief John Postlethwaite, is growing. The rallycross TV coverage is likely to come under the umbrella of Artifaxmedia who also direct the SGP television operations and there will be a considerable synergy between the two at IMG. -
What Gp To See
PHILIPRISING replied to michaelcroucher's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
DON'T bother... hasn't much going for it TORUN on the other hand has just about everything -
IN the short term the Cardiff crowd might grow. Those who already plan to attend presumably wont change their minds because it's not on Sky while others, who would otherwise sit at home, might go instead. BSI already pay to advertise on Sky so that wont change either but its the long term that a lack of TV coverage would prove harmful. However, the Sky door isn't shut and other options remain, especially in 2014.
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No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
YOU are being very simplistic just suggesting that dirt on a track will produce better racing. It won't, it is a myth. Riders want tracks that provide grip, are consistent and predictable but at the highest level any rider worth his salt is capable of winning a race. I saw EVERY World Final between 1963 and 1994 and there wasn't that much passing in any of them. Talk to any current GP rider and he will tell you that the temporary tracks at Copenhagen and Cardiff, along with Gothenburg this year (no rain) and even Auckland were fantastic. You cannot just blame the stage on which they perform if you don't like the show. I have said and written this many, many times: there is no perfect formula to producing the perfect speedway track. It is not an exact science or like baking a cake. What works one day doesn't necessarily work on another and simply throwing dirt on a track achieves nothing and more often than not results in races that have riders very strung out. Where is the entertainment in that? Ole did favour slick tracks because they are easier to handle if the weather intervenes but Tony Olsson has a different objective but you cannot just rustle up a great surface at the click of your fingers, especially at some of the stadiums where the track staff don't always listen (intentionally or otherwise) to what he proposes. I may be in a minority (wouldn't be the first time) but I enjoy the spectacle of riders, in close combat, elbow-to-elbow, having faith in each other and the track surface and wouldn't swap that for the odd pass or two. One thing Ole is working on is an all-weather track. He firmly believes that it is possible to manufacture the perfect racing circuit that will not be susceptible to the weather. What a legacy that would be. I SHOULD add that what really makes a speedway track is having more than one racing line, giving riders the option to go inside or out, often on the same lap. That was a major reason why the old Hyde Road track was so good and why, in recent times, the tracks at Bydgoszcz, Gorzow, Torun and Malilla have produced so many great GPs. -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
I WOULD be the first to admit that not all of Ole Olsen's suggestions are worthy but at least he is always trying to think of ways to make the product more entertaining and not to standstill. The work manual that he produced for the GP, which is still the benchmark today, set the bar very high for those organising and staging SGP rounds and is referred to constantly. -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
THERE are some other plans for the Monster girls, who will still be present at the draw for gate positions in the final. You are right that often riders have different views on the best gates but sometimes choices are fairly predictable. -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
WOULD you like to put money on that... -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
NO one has said they are being done out of sight. The theory is that it will be quicker to go to the riders in their pit bays rather than for them to come to the scoreboard. I happen to be sceptical that much if any time will be saved especially as it will be me going to the riders. If anyone thinks Tomasz Gollob (for example) will stop cleaning his goggles and/or adjusting his clutch to instantly choose his gate position as soon as I ask him they might be living in cloud cuckoo land. But we will see... -
Vip Methanol Club
PHILIPRISING replied to tyke's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
COULD be worth a try! -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
OLE has suffered some serious losses at Vojens over the years as well as some handsome pay days and I would doubt that he has lined his family's pockets. Jacob, after a brief and largely unsuccessful flirtation with riding, is now involved with two partners in six cycle shops and hoping to open another in Copenhagen. Torben, who has always trod his own path, is now second in command to Paul Bellamy at BSI/IMG and, trust me, has had some strong disagreements with his father. He is his own man, a really lovely guy, and provides a meticulous attention to detail which has considerably enhanced the SGP product off the track. I know Ole has his detractors, and over the years I have had some major disagreements with him. But no one can accuse him of not putting anything back into speedway, a sport he remains passionate about and still believes is the best there is. -
No More Semi-final Gate Picks
PHILIPRISING replied to Ghostwalker's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
A CHEAP shot and a comment not worthy of you Dick. Ole still makes many valuable contributions to speedway as a whole, not just the SGP, and I can think of many aspects of the sport that would be enhanced if some of Ole's ideas (including academies, track drainage and covers, rider costs to name but a few) were adopted. His knowledge, experience and passion for speedway is second to none. I attended the wedding of his youngest son (Torben) in Denmark over the weekend and was reminded of how much his family (including elder son Jacob) have contributed to speedway and how much poorer it would be without it.