tyler42

"Very much so"

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Why pay them double? In the 80s Most riders who rode in the second tier fitted a job around their speedway. I know they did more meetings back then. Approx 10 more in league racing, But Why should today's riders have two teams? There is not enough people coming through the turnstiles to support them with their 2-3 bikes big flash vans and mechanics. Before anyone says " oh but it is a lot more professional these days" Rubbish. Most of the time they are riding in front of a few hundred people. At least back in the day crowds were a lot bigger, so promoters could afford the costs a little better. Of course progression is good and its nice to have everything that glitters, but if there is no money then you have to cut you're cloth Accordingly. I'm of an age of when my weekly trip to plough lane was going to see my idols, not a team made up of guests. The team was the same week in week out. I can't remember turning up and being told Trevor Hedge or Slim Jim Tebby were not riding tonight as they were riding for Romford in the 2nd division. So we were using two riders from the Hackney instead! The BSPA have been trying to get both leagues the same in standard over the last couple of years. Surely then the most sensible thing to is amalgamate both leagues. Then that would stop the doubling up "not including the National league boys" and then maybe you will see the same seven riders each week riding for you're team.

What has been quite interesting is, when Tatum has been the main commentator on the rare occasions, the shouting and screaming stops. A couple of years ago when the world team final was re-run on a Sunday morning Tatum and Louis were the commentators. Tatum as the lead was superb no shouting out, just sensible and very enjoyable commentary with Louis giving the more technical side of things. Imo that's how it should be.

Leszno's track is 330 meters. Belle Vue is 347 meters and Kings Lynn is 342 meters. Regarding KL it's fair to say it does not have wide sweeping bends like Leszno but, Belle Vue is the closest to any of the big Polish Tracks. Cook and Worral both ride Belle Vue. Lambert KL whereas Bomber has been a round long enough to have had the experience of riding all over Europe. To ride Belle Vue would require no more technical skill or sheer speed than Leszno as both are very similar as in lots of different lines and speed. KL slightly different but, imo I don't think the poles would have too much trouble adapting. As for technical skills are you suggesting the GB boys are superior to the Poles? I also saw the great teams England had from the 70's and I agree everything goes round. So how long do you think before Team GB are back on top?

Why is it when a GB rider gets beat. We get the same old stock "The Bikes are not fast enough" Sorry but, Cook gets his engines done by PJR and has won two GP qualifiers not sure of Bomber but, He's been a GP rider for ten years plus, so his kit can't be that bad and he did beat Dudek who is co - leading the world championships! Maybe just maybe they are not just good enough, has that never crossed peoples minds? As for the posters who say "The poles engines are big" Got no idea really. If that's the case. Lindback must be riding a 750!!!

Sorry but Doyle was missing through being injured. Woffinden was never going to play a part so he was not missing. The team GB went with was always going to be just that. whereas Australia were a little bit hampered by not having a injured Doyle and a not very fit looking Morris. I don't think people on here are putting Team GB down, just expressing there opinion. Still all will be revealed come Saturday Night. If imo we get a medal regardless of colour then that to me would signal a very good effort and a pat on the boys backs for a job well done. But I do think it will be a tad harder come Saturday than what some posters are saying on here.

I don't think he was slagging GB off. Why though do we always have Australia, GB and 2 pretty weak teams at KL every year? I know Australia are not the team they were even with a fit Doyle, but GB can only beat what is put in front of them. I also think we would have struggled in Sweden ,but that in imo is not slagging the UK off just being realistic.

Yes but you could say the same thing about GB in the final on Saturday. At the end of the day they both rode with what was put in front of them, so fair play to both.

With his fantastic start the the GP series. How many riders who are struggling i.e Hancock, Pedersen and the like turn up at the next GP with a GTR under their legs?

Just read the synopsis by John Black " With a vast array of titles to his name, including youngest ever World Champion, achieved at the age of twenty-three," Maybe I'm wrong, but did Michael Lee not win it at the age of 21 and Peter Collins at 22? Or does he mean under the Grand Prix format. Still not correct though is it, unless speedway is called something different theses days.

Do love The Dectorists

I don't think the debate is about should Hancock be World Champion or not. Of course he should be. He scored the most points over the season. It's the underhand way he went about letting Holder through and then when got caught out by the powers to be. He had the audacity to pull out of the meeting stating he was not in the right frame of mind !! Did he not stop to think he was robbing the paying public of seeing the new World Champion in action? Of course not. He threw his toys out the pram. Easy solution. In the future don't cheat and please don't make silly statements ' my clutch was falling apart etc etc' The FIM may not take any further action, but his antics will tarnish his clean boy image for a long time to come.

As others have said. Surely if... your having bike problems and you think you are going to be a danger to the other three riders, then in a safe manner, your hand goes up to let the other riders know you are having problems. What Hancock did was slow down, rode wide in to the turn. Let Holder pass and then speed up to make sure the other two did not get by. Sorry but if you can't see that, then you are defending the indefensible. The major problem hear is..... Team Monster imo. If Holder were not a Monster sponsored rider, then I don't think Hancock would have let him past. I don't know what can be done, but it does seem as if Monster Joe has a lot more influence than meets the eye!

Couldn't agree more. Yes riders in years gone by would show respect to each other, but how the young GP riders of today praise Hancock off track and then they give him far too much respect on track is quite farcical. Hancock's game plan imo is to gain all the young guys friendship. So that they all think he is some kind of living legend and hey presto, when it comes to the racing side of things, they all give him an easy ride. Regarding PB and the SS. It's so piss poor journalism, how do they let him get away with it?. Surely someone should make sure it is a balanced article. Not a 'all hail Greg who shall do no wrong' It would have been nice to read a article telling it how it is from the other point of view. Lastly regarding Monster. Yes its good that a product which is well known is sponsoring the GP series, But it really doesn't help matters when their marketing director is hugging the sponsored riders and giving silly faces to the camera, but then again the t.v cameras should stop filming him or it's in his contract!! lol.

I think you always need a bit of luck as well as skill to be a champion. Call it what you like fate or luck. Last week Hancock had what looked at the time like a nasty crash in the polish play offs, but luck was on his side and he walked away unscathed. Last night he crashed in the semi final, but the red lights came on just before he crashed. So he was lucky again, but they do say you make your own luck. As for people saying Jason Doyle has plenty of time to win it. How do we know that. This could be the nearest he ever gets to winning the title.

What Pearson being so far up Hancock's A*** or Hancock being handed the world title with Doyles Injury?

Unfortunately how many Elite League riders are there that ride in both leagues? Off the top of my head I would say 5 or 6. As we know the Polish League pays more and has a bit more kudos Than the Elite League. You are quite correct though in that it is quite arrogant of them.

What facility have they been using for Hampel all season?

Big mistake using Hampel in a play off semi final?. What options did they have RR?

How does this Lawrence get on the FIM refs list?

Fantastic effort to get 2nd, when I was one of many doubters who thought we would be in the final just to make up the numbers. The proof in the pudding will be next year, when we will have to qualify and progress to the semi final and then on to the final. If we can achieve that, then maybe our fortunes as a international speedway nation will be turning a corner.

If Lambert could get a place in next seasons Polish top league, I think this would bring him on no end. Racing with the top boys every week in week out would in my opinion be really good for him.

Iversen was on one wheel before contact was made, so there is a case where you could say he was already out of control.

I would say both competitions are completely different. The one off World Final meant you could not really afford a bad ride. The pressure must have been very intense to say the least. You had to put together five good rides, no second chances. Where as In the GP's it's all about accumulating points throughout the series. Tai said in an interview, that he was quite happy just to get into the final. To him winning was not the most important thing, but to keep raking up the points. Imo both are just as good as the other.