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Sorry the rule we are talking is about double points ..I watched Football and sports all my life I can't remember a player coming on scoreing a try or a goal that counts double of what is normally scores so unless you can show me when that has happened the point you were trying to make is void .

And people are expressing there opinions on what he said ... but for some reason you have a problem with it .

Wrong as in one Off World final many a time a bad draw would leave you with two bad gates giving you little chance of winning ...most of the time it was a Lottery ..this is what I mean about old fans can't find nothing wrong with the old days. this is a classic example .

Sorry maybe I miss it but what other sport can you changed your side for the better when your a certain amount of points or goals behind ? in football ,rugby etc you can changed your side at any time so your point is void ..Were the 16 there on merit in every one of the one off world finals ? The gp system might be unfair but that does not make the old system correct . As I pointed out it was stupid as it allowed no hopers who had no right to be there get in it for every Muller you had 5 hopeless ones who should not be there ...So as said some stupid rules now but there were just as many stupid rules in the Collins days .

Of course it's stupid to replaced a rider with a better one when you fall behind ..I think nearly every speedway fans thinks the same and of the course how you got to one off world final was stupid as there was no way that the 16 riders ever had a fair chance and all World Finals ended with 4 or 5 no hopers and some times even more ..so as I said there were just as many stupid rules back then, of course the old school can't see or won't accept that .

Spot on ...if they good ideas then they would have got rid of them in the first place or they would have brought them back . There was plenty of stupid rules back in the old days like the tac sub rule and how you got to a World Final etc .

As has been pointed out many a time the old ts rule was far more a laughing stock than the new rule something that Collins makes no comment about ..hence why people say he stuck in the past .

"Drop a cog" post="2388426" timestamp="1387832997"] I can just imagine you telling us Bill Gates' opinion on computing isn't worth as much as my Mum's because he might not have paid for a computer recently and my Mum bought an ipad last month, lol! Peter Collins was better than riding a Speedway bike than most but as how the sport should be ran his opinion is the same as the next person .. All we have here is some old bloke who likes gravy on Chips being stuck in the past .Of course the ones who agree with him are the same sort of people .

I Argee ..I am fan of the ts rule ..I bet you this much as soon as it is taken away people would moan that the meeting was dead to soon .

What point ? when asked why the only answer is because we say so ...no logic to back it up .

There can be no doubt that more matches were won because of the used of a tac sub in the old days for the simple fact you only had be 6 points behind ...there be no doubt that it changed the outcome of more matches .

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He sure is, he cracks me up when he tries to put people down because he can't come up with an answer ...all the classics have come out .

So what is your opinion of why it is ? why did the old rule not make it look like a circus ?

Yet again what has any of the above got to do with the debate about the new and the old rule ?

Sorry ? but what has that got to do with the old being fairer than the new rule ?

So no answer again ...

In most people's world hence when asked you can never tell us why the old rule was fairer ,.

Poor side as it's the based on a strong top 3, the problem of course is having Oli in the side means it's only matter of time before rr comes into play and this side won't be able to cover it .

Says the person who keeps getting ban ...the irony .two weeks before the normal you know nothing about the sport rants and how people are not knowledgeable etc etc ..same old Sid .

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Speedway is the same as any sport ..you always see premier league sides in football replaced two of there side with Non league players ..it's the way forward .

As I said before unless your on fast bikes or a fast car you won't win nowt in Motor sport so in pure skill terms you can never be sure who the best is unlike other sports ...By the way I expect the time Murray spends in one match on court would Double the amount of Tai spends on track in one week . The fact that Speedway fans even try to put Speedway up against massive sports like Tennis shows how out of touch they are .

No it's a pizza

People know Athletes because it's important sport people know about Ainslie because the Americas cup and the story of the comeback was a massive worldwide event ,,People don't know about Tai because Speedway is view upon as load of rubbish so him winning it means nothing . Sure people knowing you before with help you out but yet again that is where Tai and speedway fall down