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Of course they will ..it was almost impossible to do worst than GB did this year ..As any GB team is going to get beat by the Usa ...Anyone bar Middlo would have walked after that, it's like the England football team getting beat by San Marino .

I expect with almost anyone in charge for them to beat the USA or Latvia so the answer is yes . We got more Riders and better ones that the teams we have been got beat by this year .

Should have been sack after getting beat by Latvia and the USA ...shocking . should be between Morris and Rosco .

Be the same if it is build when it comes to I told you so's . A lot of people have no faith in Morton and Gordon and who can blame them with there track record .Nothing wrong in that . I think we all just wait for a start or it's not going to happen rather there these endless there is going to good news next week, before finding out that the good news is that Gordon and co have gone on a piss up to Poland .

if you are correct I have to say that sky have ruined speedway be changing these helmet colours

As someone has already ask you where has it ever been said or shown that Sky had any input into those 3 rules ? We all know that double points rule was brought in as a cost saving measure .

So hardly a lot then .

Spot on ..the biggest laugh is about El over spending when just as many if not more Pl teams find themselves with more going out than coming in ...any sport that lost it's sky money would find it it hard and Speedway is the same Are they ...the top riders in the Pl the Doyle's ,etc are owned by El clubs

? all work to same Ideal what money you are getting in and what you paying out . as I said there have been just as many if not more PL clubs who at this present time can't balance the books ...in terms of losing money and fans both are the same . How long have Glasgow etc been in the pl ? there losing money all the time hardly ties in what say about teams being able to to work to tight budgets because they have been in the pl for a number of years .

How do judge a league being a working product ? there are just many clubs in the Pl who finances are in a mess and just about stay open each year ...just like any sport without the sky money that sport in question would not be able to run in the way it has speedway is the same ...The PL just like the El in losing fans and money as every season passes .

Give them Places in El where there not good enough ....give then charity rather than making them earn it ..the way things are going I can't seeing us having the World Champion

oh yes

Yea hope for a cold winter

Same old boring talk about cutting costs ..you keep doing that the crowds keep dropping never to return not sure why people think people are going to turn up to watch nl riders rather than top liners the bottom line is they won't ..we need idea's that bring crowds back rather than away .

Been said before but the main reason people don't to live sky matches is tends be on a off race night and that has been a massive problem . We know your silly answer is that you would go any day but most fans don't .

Is that the best you can do :rofl: Goon ...you steady on ...

So after saying that tac sub was just as bad you now change your mind to saying it was much worst ?

Sorry what has a World final and meetings 40 years ago got to do with a play off final in 2013 ? a four team final or pairs event has 10-16 sets of fans rather than just two ...crazy answer and logic as normal

Speedway fans as a rule only watch home fans ..a neutral venue would get a crowd of 500 at most .

First of all why are you going to a play off match as you dislike them so much ? no doubt you never got angry when old the tac sub rule was used ...I thought you said that is was just as bad or have you forgotten ?

Most of them won't be around for long I expect .

Has it ? the way you get into has changed as you no longer have to be champions ...so what we have is a comp called the champions league that has teams in it who are not champions who also play a final to decide it ..I am amazed with that in mind that there has not been a riot .

Surely that defeats the object of the plays offs ? Because a play off meaning not winning the league would be not watched by anyone

And what do think happens in rugby ? they used the same system and can't remember a riot yet

Why would there be a riot ? if they knew the rules before the start of the season then people would accept it just like they do in all the other sports where play offs take place ...cant remember many riots when a 5th place team beats a 3rd place team to gain promotion in football or any in Rugby union or league that used the same system .