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Why would be also rans for ever if we beat the Usa and Latvia ? why won't we be working hard ? who said it would happen overnight ?

No one expects them to Beat the Danes Poles etc ...what they do expect is to ride to standard when don't get beat by the likes of Latvia and the Usa etc like they did under Middlo ...so if Rosco can do that most will be happy .

Yes .

To come behind Latvia and the Usa means that is was almost impossible not to do better .

These things take time

Now the world cup is on Eurosport i think we can win it

:rofl: .

Well done Rosco ...I am sure you will be able to do better than Middlo and beat the mighty usa and Latvia .

A more important question who would win in a fight between them ?

I wish these people would stop talking about 2013 on this topic .

Whoosh

As I said guess work with no facts to back it up .

In other words you made it up ...it's common sense that it is impossible to know unless your naïve enough to think that riders etc post under there own names .

Not really just asked where you got your figures from ..I would say it's naïve to think that all riders etc are going to post under there real name .

Where do you get your figures from ? unless people post in there name what they don't it is impossible to judge how many riders ,Promoters post or read what is on here .

Whoosh

The forum was so much better in the old days ..all the people were so great and nice to each other . If only Eurosport were about at the time

And again so easy to make you lose your temper I can see the smoke

Hook the duck ..a prize every time

Yea course he did ..reading the interview he like to praise himself a lot but of course when Belle Vue were Bottom not only did he walk away he blamed others rather than himself .

And when he was at Belle what did he do ? got in a load of crap European riders . Classic .

Good gater ? i have to say he is one of the worst i have ever seen .

I Think every fan accepts there are problems in the sport what most understand thou is going back to the rules 25 years ago won't work now .

One of your better posts on the subject

Yet again just because a rule is daft now does not mean that the rules back then were not ...as I said before thou the new tac rule is ridiculous the old rule was just as stupid as you could bring a World Champion for your worst rider you also score more points overall and you also only had to be six behind so it changed the results far more than the new rule .. this is why people question Collins and the likes of you and say you are stuck in past because you can't accept that rules in the past were just as bad By the way away goals counting double has nothing to with picking a rider to score double points ...as I said before show me the sport when a manager picks a player to do so .