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Yea but that was before the rain

Poole can win this easy but if ippo ride to there best they could keep this tight

We get the message Steve .. Poole are massive underdogs and when they win it will be against all the odds

Crowds were massive when we had more guests than we do today ...just another made up myth

What is deluded ? what is untrue ...Crowds have drop as the standard has ? clubs closed every year ? the plan is to cut the standard again the same plan as the last 15 years ? The problem with speedway is never thinks about how they will make crowds bigger its always been how many fans will can we hold on to . If Swindon are barely breaking even I would say that doing pretty well seeing most clubs are losing money .

No the bottom line is you can't keep losing fans and not replacing them . cutting the standard has clearly not worked but still it's the same plan the next year .Another 5 clubs will go under by next year and the plan will be the same again .no one talking about world class no 1's thou quite clearly is not a problem for Swindon as the good crowds pay for it .

if Cardiff was not a unique event it will still be all about who was riding .. Agree with your other points

Yet again it not what you said no one even spoke about the money ..you said the standard of the rider makes no difference to the crowds ..so I ask again if NL rides were riding at Cardiff next week would the crowd be the same ..it's not hard its just yes or no

I never said anything the money side that is another debate ..but just to say that the standard of rider does not effect the crowd borders on madness ..only a speedway fan could come up with logic like that

You said that its not about standard of rider that's brings in crowds .. so explain it that is the case when don't they have NL riders at riders at Cardiff rather that the top blokes after all look at the money they would save they could make a packet ? How comes hardly any one showed up the the Junior match they had at Swindon ? after all no one cares who's riding or what standard it is .

So why don't the National league have big crowds then if it's not about the standard of rider ..why don't they have just juniors rather than Tai and co next week at Cardiff ? after all using your logic the crowd would be the same . This is a big problem old people who are happy to watch anything and think that is how the rest of world think ..you can see why speedway has the problems it got , . anyhow I got a great plan lets cut the standard again so the crowds drop it's not worked for the last 20 years so lets try it again

It's get shouted down because putting the standard down is one of the main problems speedway has and why crowds have drop and stadiums are shutting down ..of course when this happens the answer is the lower the standard again . The same old people who reckon 7 juniors on a sat night with no guests is somehow the way forward ..

And what happens if they lose to Poole ..no bumper play off final crowd ...Semi final crowds have never been that great anyhow so if somehow they come top picking Poole is madness

As I said all a long by lower crowds cause by weaker sides .

Swindon have nearly tracked the same 1 -7 for last two years with hardly any guests it's never been better .. never heard nothing form any Swindon fan being worried about Ellis Perks riding for a Pl side ...as I said just more myths made up . Because of the high ave age of a speedway fan they tend to moan about most things some with good reason but most of the time just for the sake of it .

Spot on sponsors being put off by rules is another speedway myth as I said we had guests when speedway had massive sponsors

There used to massive sponsors deals when the same thing happened all the time so not why that's a issue now when it never used to be ..unless guests are a new thing in speedway of course . In fact with fixed race nights its even less likely to happen now .. It's makes you wonder how they got sponsors in the old days ..maybe they never told them about guest riders

As I said I just can't see how we are going to beat Wolves over two legs and ever more so with the Form Douglas is in now

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Yea going 4 points clear at the top league ..how are you lemon getting on ?

Wait to the media get hold of that .Wimbledon will empty next year what other sport would used that system ..Bad news for golf as well with scoring system they used to decide the Tour championship last week ..just hope that it was not on tv .

Yes they do ..a lot sports in the us and ran like that .. another speedway myth . I see in cricket you can play for Two teams one the championship and one in limited overs .. Wait to the media get hold of there be no crowd on t 20 finals day .

They do ..sadly thou people keep making fuss about it nowone has ever come up with a better plan that understands the money side of the sport ..

No points having fixed race nights if riders are going to be missing on the nights you go on about that was the whole idea .. Friday and Sat have little affect on crowds anymore the stats show you that .

What nights would you have gone for ? knowing that the top league can't used weekends