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How do you work that out ? He scored 27 from his last 16 rides over the last two seasons .that is less than 8 also Doyle never rode in all thous meetings .as a rule cook never been all that good round the Abbey.

Well done to Belle vue by far the better team .You have to wonder why they have found it so hard this season as they are a decent team and if they can the make the play offs they have a great chance of winning them .Great to see Bewley ride so well .he started off slow but once he got to grips with the track he flew and was mustard in heat 15 .Swindon were poor and lack any fight for the job in hand .Why do we carry on with Jack Smith ? ok there is not much out there to replace him but he is unlikely to beat another rider so what's the point .

Bet he was cut up about that

Ok cost me 64 quid for four of us to go last week ? Why

Lol ..no speedway needs to stay the same..we don't need any of the fans that 20 _20 get packing the staduim out .got to keep these sort of people out .

Why is cricket a snore fest .because you think so ? 20 -20 is one of the most exciting sports there is and as well as people enjoying a drink there are hugh a.amount fans who are families having a day or night out .one of the worst thing about this topics is clueless idiots trying to make other excuses why other sports are doing well just because they dont like or dont understand them .if you asked any sports fan worth there salt if 20 -20 was a snooze fest they would laugh you out of town .

Always the victims

One of the better to happen to speedway then ..nothing worse for the sport than some saps doing a war cry

Not really. A team that has say a Doyle or a Lambert and you then replaced them with a junior the crowd is going to go down by 150 to 300 and that will cripple clubs .it's same the old story people putting up ideas but with no thinking about the money side .it's the same with take away the play offs and why don't we a play off cup !. Yet again your plan is thinking that the fans don't care who they watch .people have left because the standard of rider has dropped

That is nearly the same as the rules now

Yet again we had years of people saying this but not one person has come up with a better or workable idea ..look at you replace no1 's with juniors etc ..

As I said we had guests years ago when speedway was packed ..no one cared ....nothing ridiculous about comparing a sport that has stupid rules but still has billions of fans and is packed with money ..you never know one day football might host a world cup where is to hot to stage it in the middle of the normal football season ..oh hang on

A lot Football players teams are full of Loans players no one has a problem with that ..Football has a cup called the champions league that has teams without champions in it but is one most watched comp in the world ...anyone can pulled apart a sport with stupid rules they all have them

Credibility is over egged in speedway .in the old days will still had guests and rr and we had a world speedway final that make sure that it never top 16 in the world in it but still 70 k of fans came and watched .

So not a top of the table clash then

Fans said they wanted less guests etc so chapman brought in fixed race nights to help ...the result was fans moaning about the race night . ...You can't replace main riders with juniors as it effects the crowd levels . I hate to say it but there are no easy answers ..even when you give the fans what they want they still moan

No one said it would be the saviour of the sport ...the decline has nothing to with having play offs ,trying to connect the two with no evindence and them working in every other sport shows how wrong that is . As I said the decline is really easy to work out it's because Poland and Sweden become bigger than the uk and we were no could longer dictate to riders and have every race night etc etc it's been downhill ever since ...the last bit about speedway beyond rescue is 100 % correct I don't think anything can save it now .

What you don't understand is that the pl has champions league spots and teams can go down as well as Europa league spots and massive prize money for each place .so plenty for teams to play for and fans to watch .so no need for play offs as every game has something riding on it plus the crowds are massive as they have sold so many seasons tickets before the start of the season ..now you tell me what speedway got to race for with no play offs ? Nothing bar the league title that could be over before you know it.

Nearly all sports have play offs not just football .

The best idea ive seen ...I can see it now Leics v Wolves the winner winning the bottom of the table ko cup ..should pack them in .maybe they could have in on pay for view ?

It had to change as the uk was not the number one in speedway anymore .They could just have 7 race days all the riders etc etc anymore .Yet again speedway does not have his own agenda when it comes to play offs .plenty have the same rules and the champions are chosen by this method and are packed with fans. how come rugby fans don't pick and choose the matches at the start of the season?.No doubt another only in speedway fan rule .

Yet again the modern fan would not care if his team came 3rd if There were no play offs .time has moved on .as I said before play offs give most teams something race for all season .if Poole say say have much bette team r than anyone else at go clear by June it would mean no else would have anything to race for and the season would be over and the modern fan would not turn up .The bottom line is play offs are a massive success in all sports ,so for oaps mainly to say they are a big reason why fans don't come to UK speedway anymore is insane .

The only person who keeps saying about football is you Ive not said about football once .I said every other sport that has play offs ..maybe the nasty media have brain washed them about all these other sports that have play offs that fans love as well. It's pretty clear that once the UK was not the be all and end all of world speedway things were never goingvto be the same hence why things that worked in the golden era are not going to work now .

I compared speedway to every other sport that has play offs and all of them are a massive success but somehow if we don't have them in speedway all the crowds will come back and like the numbers that has flocked back now that we don't have double points ...as i said these topics are always clog up with oap' s who go back to the past with rules and things that won't work in the modern age .Times have changed sadly speedway and its fans have not .

Why would they be more meaningful ? it's stands to reason with out play offs there would be a lot less ..if team went clear after 6 weeks there would nothing more to race for and crowds would be even lower