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Of course that was end Clark's plan all along .The staduim was never going to build where they said . And of course the new plans will never get off the ground because of the noise and where the houses are now built .You can see Osbourne Clark with a Hannibal smith cigar saying I love it when a plan comes together.

Why would be the same .it was not the point i was making .you gave a example of why we should not have strong teams become reading went bust .so I am giving you example back of when not having top riders has hurt another club .. it's not hard to follow .Losing fans that never come back is not sustainable for anyone but the plan is to carry doing that ..amazing .

Losing fans that will never come back is unsustainable where have you been the last 20 years ..for the Reading story read Poole who had a high standard team and were making a profit each year to now where the crowd are 50 % less due to not being able to do the same .

When did I say anything about gp riders as no 1's ? I say the standard getting lower

Not doing to well in doing that is it ?

And what we are doing at the moment is suicide ... the people with heads in the clouds are people thinking that keep making the league weaker will make things better even thou we have been doing the same thing for the last 20 years . 7 riders of crap standard who turn up every week and wave to the crowd and do a wheelie and talk to 70 year old people in the bar after wont save the sport ..what other sport thinks by making the standard worse that crowds will get better ? by somehow speedway fans think this is the way .unreal

Of course the standard answer is to have any 7 riders who ride and turn up every week and somehow the crowds will come back ..what other sport thinks that getting the standard lower will makes things better and will save the sport . There no easy answers but the mind set must be to raise the standard of rider and make teams stronger not weaker ..Each year the same plan is to lower the standard (cut costs ) quite clearly it's not working but the answer to this is to do the same again .

Sadly as you can see on this topic and many others speedway fans think the way forward is get less people to watch it ...it really is an amazing mind set .

Of course it does .its common sense that the better the standard the more fans who have stopped going would go again and the more people that come back the more likely that they will bring new fans with them .. I got no answers how we do it but if the only plan to keep droping the standard and have a mind set that we don't need top riders in the uk then the sport will carry on losing fans intill it's dead..

Of course that is why we don't have them anymore ...but that is not the question ..Someone on here is saying that big names won't bring in bigger crowds ...when you hear comments like that I don't know if I should laugh or cry .

Only speedway fans can think that star names won't makes the crowds bigger .it like saying that more people wont come to see mcg at darts ronnie O'Sullivan at snooker Messi at football etc .its no wonder speedway is in a mess if people have a mind set like that .it's simple fact as the standard has dropped so have the crowds it's not rocket science.

Yet again well done to them a master stroke .

Wow ..that is so clever of them ..that clearly makes it the right to do then

Maybe so .but quite clearly you never had a clue why Belle vue were not running next week.You would have to brain dead to run on the same night as a England World cup match .Nothing to do with blaming the world cup just common sense

Yea lets run a match when England could be playing Have you really worked for a speedway mag ?

Rye deserved a point and were unlucky . the Scott Nicholls ef when in the lead was vital to the overall result .Saying that how on earth was there no re run in the last heat ? Harris and Muse were wheel to wheel when mpt fell

Are you ..why or how did you reply if that was the case ?

And ? the whole point is that he had to try as we would have lost anyhow ..surely anyone with common sense can understand that .

Of course you can ...what was the point of not doing so ...the circumstances were coming first and last meant we lost .

Having a bit of bad luck ..first a women's Basketball match now this .

it was a comment after the World Cup final at Belle Vue ..quite clearly he's changed his opinion now

Not sure where your find it but he said it in a statement... there was a big fuss about it at the time ..I did find another quote from him thou after the world cup at Belle vue ...it's makes it even odder that he was doing wheelies after the final race tonight . "I want gold," says Woffinden." Who gives a f*** about silver, you're first loser, let's celebrating losing, f*** that. "I'm on the podium and everyone's got a smile on their face and I'm thinking 'why's everybody happy,

Just answer the question ..you made big statement now back it up ...maybe when you sober up tomorrow ?

That is a matter of opinion ..Woffy gave out loads of reasons why he never rode etc etc they changed every week ...one of them is that he wanted to go on holiday in world cup week ..as has been pointed out if he stood by his beliefs how comes after not in the riding world cup he somehow wanted to ride in the world games a few weeks later so nothing had changed ?

Why ? thou he's done great for himself this week I have seldom a rider do so little for his country before hand ..one day your understand it's all about himself . The like race sum him up in a nutshell