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They all know rules in the first so it's not ...no one is upset or feels it's a travesty anymore ….As for a place off cup it's been said a million times that no fans turn for them and clubs lose money ..we have had the craven shield and the jack young cup at pl level and both were a financial disaster . The trouble with these subjects is that the normal suspects turn up ..people who have not gone for 15 years who are between 60 -70 years old .they try to make out they want the best for speedway but really want the rules and things back when they went like no plays off and one off world finals etc etc

Plays offs in other sports work great and have brought more fans into the sport but somehow in speedway people left because of them ..another only in speedway thing . I am amazed that this we not had record crowds this year after all we were told that thousands of fans left because of the double point rule ..surely they must have all come back now . As for people not liking gimmicks 20 -20 cricket is full of them like free hits power plays etc etc ..and is packing in the crowds with players earning massive money .

I Don't know for sure myself but people on facebook groups etc tend to think it's well over 250 thus far ..I have friend in the council who thinks that is about right as well .let's be honest it's hardly a shock if thou's figures are correct . What Swindon fans should have done for a laugh is asked to see the already built stadium when Gi said it was built in Port Talbot ..I wonder what they done with that now

Sadly spot on Matt .What are the Council going to do when Gi say they are not going to build the stadium ? pull the houses down ? Each time we all know what Clark and Gi are going to do but they still get away with it .Next stop for GI, Torquay Ute in the great we will build houses but no stadium scam .

To carry on the puns ...Cameron was a heep of rubbishe

And I leave you to keep to the same plan that has not worked for 20 years .

Not really .if make a analogy it has make sense and logic .that's the whole point .try again

Would they ? I eat meat and I don't like fillet steak .I also loads of people enjoy would enjoy burgers ever thou they are cheaper ..so what you say is not really true .

?? surely you noticed that the cost cutting has been making the teams a lower standard ..I though everyone knew that ..your plan is do the same again by making the league weaken again ..Yet again unless you been in a cave it's don't work

Yep ..they done for the last 20 years ….nothing likes new ideas to bring fans back .

Don't tell me the houses will be built first ?

One big league would close a few more clubs down quite quickly ..but no matter what they do I am sad to say nothing can save UK speedway anymore from the slow death as one by one clubs close .people want to see the best but sadly we have not got the money or the crowds to do that .The moment they drop the standard again and we lose the last few good riders worth watching the end will be near .of course the die hards who go every week and will be happy to watch a lowest of the low but the fans they need to get back will be lost forever .

Chris Harris well you got him now

Wow was looking earlier and seen poole were miles clear ..was shocked to find out they got beat ..what a choke .

Have ever thought of giving Simon Bates a call ? ..I think he still does our tune

You sure ? all the people I know who go anymore don't want the likes of Tai and co to come back ..they want 7 juniors who wave at the crowd and have a pint in the bar after . We got to cut costs so even less people go and we get yes sponsors press coverage etc ..it's the way forward

its on sky sports ... phil taylor has been placed in sports personally of the year etc ..how do you judge what is a sport ?

I know look at Darts

Another amazing topic .a poster who posts story after Story day after day that are untrue makes up yet another story and people take it as gospel ..wow

Of course that was end Clark's plan all along .The staduim was never going to build where they said . And of course the new plans will never get off the ground because of the noise and where the houses are now built .You can see Osbourne Clark with a Hannibal smith cigar saying I love it when a plan comes together.

Why would be the same .it was not the point i was making .you gave a example of why we should not have strong teams become reading went bust .so I am giving you example back of when not having top riders has hurt another club .. it's not hard to follow .Losing fans that never come back is not sustainable for anyone but the plan is to carry doing that ..amazing .

Losing fans that will never come back is unsustainable where have you been the last 20 years ..for the Reading story read Poole who had a high standard team and were making a profit each year to now where the crowd are 50 % less due to not being able to do the same .

When did I say anything about gp riders as no 1's ? I say the standard getting lower

Not doing to well in doing that is it ?