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The 1985 event saw riders accumulating qualifying points from the first 6 home & away official second halves. Does anyone have any records of the qualifying scores, not the semi's or final, just the qualifying rounds? They had hoped to run with the same criteria in 1986 but this appears to have gone out the window at some point. By all accounts each team simply selected 2 representatives - for example Edinburgh had a fans vote which Collins & Wyer headed so they went to Arena. Can anyone put some more meat on the bones here, when was the decision to drop the 2nd half system made, what were the reasons etc. Glasgow's representatives were Steve Lawson and Bobby Beaton and I'm looking for their respective scores from the event if anyone can oblige. RESOLVED The same duo were down to ride in the Pairs at Hackney on 13/7 - looking for scores and finishing position if possible.

When Powderhall had the hanging board fence a rider, I think Brett Saunders, ran wide and brushed one of the panels with his rear wheel causing it to fall onto the track. The race was stopped and rerun without any exclusion. He could have been excluded as primary cause but it was deemed to be a 'technical' problem, akin to the tapes not rising correctly, therefore the rider wasn't at fault. Tore Kittelsen excluded two riders who fell on the first bend at White City, saying they both fell independantly. He even came on to explain his decision to Dave Lanning in the broadcast. I don't recall ever seeing that happen again.

10th April 1983 Mildenhall v Glasgow - who was Mildenhall's non-riding number 8? You might not even have to climb into the attic if you can recognize him from his sky blue and white leathers and collar length brown/blonde hair - the video only shows him from the back! Prime candidates are Dave Jackson, Andy Steward or Chris Felgate. I have a rider B. Carruthers in a 2nd half junior race at Berwick 17/09 - forename please? Thanks.

"Tonight I can reveal to you that definite moves are afoot to bring speedway to Aberdeen next season with a number of open meetings. The persons responsible have already got a stadium which will be ideal for the sport and are currently trying to get planning permission." Dave Thomson (Glasgow programme editorial 27th May 1983) Sadly planning permission was not to be forthcoming and the Northern track lights of old Aberdeen remain darkened to this day.

How about this? https://app.box.com/s/wm7cfpcwle17ebtue3q3/1/495003813/4063974559/1

Bringing this back in to play as I've updated the requirements list, in particular 1985 which I've had to rework after receiving fresh information. Researchers may be interested to know that there are 8 confirmed errors in the Glasgow figures contained in the 1986 yearbook: Match 19 (h v Peterborough NL) Brian Collins: delete 3-5-1, insert 4-5-1 Match 42 (a v Edinburgh ST) Martin McKinna: delete 3-1-1, insert 4-1-0 Match 42 (a v Edinburgh ST) David Cassels: delete 4-4-1, insert 5-4-1 Match 42 (a v Edinburgh ST) Brian Collins: delete 2-5-0, insert 4-5-0 Match 42 (a v Edinburgh ST) Kenny Brailsford: delete 5-5-1, insert 4-5-1 Match 47 (a v Edinburgh SC) Steve Lawson: delete 4-9-0, insert 5-9-0 Match 47 (a v Edinburgh SC) Andy Reid: delete 3-2-0, insert 4-2-0 Match 47 (a v Edinburgh SC) David Cassels: delete 4-5-0, insert 4-5-1 Match 19 has a knock-on effect on the averages, Collins' total rides should be 78, not 77. Speedway Star reported Collins was excluded on 2 mins, in fact it was for a tapes offence. His replacement, Jim Beaton, was then excluded under 2 mins (reported as 'NS'). Now confirmed by three independant sources. The Edinburgh changes are courtesy of meeting footage and programme scans from Mike Hunter. Remarkably there were no alterations to the Edinburgh figures! If you can assist with any of my requests please get in touch, thanks.

OK chaps, check this out... http://coryvarcoe.co.nz/gallery/index.php/OretiParkSpeedway/2013-2014-Season/NZ-Solo-Title It's a collection of photos from the event. Using these pictures, helped by the fact that they are in chronological order, I've come up with what I believe to be the format. Heats 1-12 were the qualifiers. Not all pictures show all riders but here's what I've deduced - these are line-ups, not results, with picture numbers in brackets: Ht 01: Sean Mason, Bradley Wilson-Dean, Jeremy Godfrey, Connor Spriggs (1-3) Ht 02: Grant Tregoning, Jack MacRae, Ryan Moss, Jason McKay (4-9) Ht 03: Andrew Aldridge, Dale Finch, Brannon Coppard, Brady Mudgway (10-20) Ht 04: Jason Bunyan, Kody Tocher, Jake Gillespie, Ryan Terry-Daley, Paul Hayes (11-30) Ht 05: Sean Mason, Kody Tocher, Jake Gillespie, Ryan Moss (31-34) Ht 06: Dale Finch, Jeremy Godfrey, Jack MacRae, Brannon Coppard (35-45) Ht 07: Grant Tregoning, Ryan Terry-Daley, Paul Hayes, Brady Mudgway, Michael Hardman (46-57) Ht 08: Jason Bunyan, Andrew Aldridge, Jason McKay, Connor Spriggs (58-68) Ht 09: Jason Bunyan, Jeremy Godfrey, Jack MacRae, Michael Hardman (59-74) Ht 10: Andrew Aldridge, Dale Finch, Jake Gillespie, Ryan Terry-Daley, Ryan Moss (75-84) Ht 11: Kody Tocher, Bradley Wilson-Dean, Paul Hayes, Brady Mudgway (85-93) Ht 12: Grant Tregoning, Sean Mason, Brannon Coppard (94-109) At this point 4 riders are missing a ride: Wilson-Dean, McKay, Spriggs and Hardman. Heats 3 & 4 and 6 - 11 have start pictures and number of riders is confirmed but one rider is impossible to identify in ht 11 so it could be either McKay or Spriggs. The top 6 went straight to the semi-finals. There were two 3 rider heats for the bottom 6 (13-18) scorers: Ht 01 appears to have finished Coppard, Moss, Spriggs. (110-115) Ht 02 appears to have finished Gillespie, McKay, Hardman. (111-120) The 2 heat winners joined riders 7-12 in 2 four rider repechages. Ht 01 seemed highly dramatic, Brady Mudgway crashing out while dicing for the lead. Terry-Daley and Hayes then swapped places for two laps until it appears Terry-Daley dumped Hayes and was excluded. No rerun though, and Hayes remounts and seems to finish the race and I assume was awarded first place. The other rider was Brannon Coppard. (121-148) Ht 02 and Wilson-Dean led away but disappeared from view with presumably the engine failure mentioned previously. McCrae led home Godfrey and Gillespie. (149-161) Semi-final line-ups are as reported, both 4 rider heats. Pics from 162-171 and 172-181. Three other riders were listed in the original 20 but didn't appear in any of the snaps at all - 10c Sean Cox, 55i John Tuffey and Robin Cook who had no number listed. I think 2 of the 3 account for the heats with 4 or less riders but no way of proving that 100%.

I only noticed last night that some of the prints are signed Mick 76 - Michanek, Kennett, Mauger, Joe Owen, Louis, Olsen and Peter Collins. Perhaps these were part of a series? One droll acquaintance also pointed out that some of these heads are to scale but I'm not saying who's Uploaded more book pics last night.

Aren't they great? Shame they're not higher quality. It occurred to me having all these pics in one folder could get a bit unwieldy so I've set up separate folders with appropriate titles and uploaded a few more pics to each.

A long time ago I bought a box of assorted speedway bric-a-brac on ebay. Amongst it was a CD-rom containing hundreds of scans of various items of speedway memorabilia. All sorts of weird and wonderful things I'd certainly never seen before alongside programmes and books etc. I stumbled across the disc earlier and thought I'd upload some of the more 'interesting' items starting with these rider charicatures done in 1977 by an artist called Mick. Scan quality isn't great but certainly worth viewing. You can view them at this link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6jomc8p7qapkv4v/AABTKInptO3x7nuh7fl9Tmkua which is where I'll upload other items deemed to be of interest.

He was 58. A great rider who could score points anywhere. R.I.P. Mike.

Served entirely by the Bet365 streams, here's what I've heard this year: Belle Vue: Nothing. PA doesn't carry to the hot air balloon they film from. Birmingham: Scant consolation but I thought best of the bunch presentation-wise until they shut. Coventry: Guy in the box is fine. Always thought York was a gasbag and I've heard nothing to dissuade me of that opinion. He spoke across the heat results being announced one evening, that's pretty poor. Eastbourne: Only seen a couple from there and the PA is usually drowned out by the tractor racing. King's Lynn: Guy in the box is OK but I would prefer if he stuck to winner-time-2nd-3rd-4th-heat score-prog score-repeat time-done. Centre green chap is a bit one-dimensional and he should be told that when a referee witholds the result because riders are being attended to, it's not an opportunity to invite folk to visit the track shop or grub huts. Leicester: Centre green chap seems prone to missing changes that the guy in the box has to correct. Never been a great fan of announcer inter-play, it invariably sounds amateurish, so maybe back off on that. Unrelated topic, but I can't help thinking their track might be better if they limited the speed of the tractor to under seventy. Lakeside: The guy in the box reminds me of Yogi Bear. Hey Booboo, it's a tactictacle ride. Can't think of the roving mic guy so he must be OK. Better than the nightmare that was Dave Lanning and his looney tunes back in the day. Poole: Can't hear PA from current position. Did get a clear listen once early in the season, seemed fine to me but can't say much more than that. Swindon: Guy in the box is the best in the EL for me. Did he commentate for Screensport at one time? Centre green guy goes about his job fine. Wolverhampton: Box man ok. Not keen on the centre fellow, the words 'acquired taste' spring to mind. If I needed announcers for a meeting, I'd be phoning the Birmingham guys with the Swindon boys in reserve. Some great names from the past mentioned. John Earrey was excellent. I have a video with Rob McCaffery commentating on a 4TT and it's a lesson in advanced mathematics. If he didn't mention it, you didn't need to know it - good commentating. I heard so much of Dick Barrie I kind of phased him out in the end. But...you fair missed him when he wasn't there and he's still working after what, 45 years? Must be doing something right. Mike Bennett became omnipresent, he was ok by and large, good professional. It worries me slightly that the track I thought had the best presentation went down the pan. Whatever problems they had, it wasn't in that department. Can we draw any conclusions from this? Is presentation largely irrelevant to the new or casual supporter? Or is it hopelessly dated and I'm too old to see it? I must say that viewing it solely from the standpoint of somebody new seeking a family night out, it looked and sounded OK to me. For a laugh I used to state 'speedway announcers were killing the sport'. Usually when someone made a mistake (tippex, quickly now!) or blabbed on too long. Yet here we are twenty-odd years later and things aren't looking too rosy. Perhaps I was right, perhaps tracks should just employ a DJ and build a modern big screen to relay all the information. And by modern I mean one that actually looks like a giant telly, not one that's been pinched from the set of the Gemini Man. Has the sport been ignoring it's biggest problem when it's been staring them right in the, eh...ears? Just think, the DJ can get a bit of a groove going or whatever you funky cats do nowadays, probably involves your thang or something similar. The screen can spew out all the info you need. Jazz up the track lights a bit for between heats. Lasers and smoke and stuff. Nice. Every other motor sport bawls it's head off, maybe we should go mellow. The laid-back motor sport. Yeh, get some Floyd on, kick out Monster, bring in Tetley, big cushions and mood lighting. I'm there...

Bob Jones Memorial Meeting - 22/3/01Individual Scorers1.Micheal Coles : 1,1,f,1,2 = 52.Paul Fry : ret,ef - Withdrew(flu) = 03.Ales Dryml : 3,3,3,3,3 = 154.Oliver Allen : 2,1,1,1,3 = 85.Claus Kristensen : 2m,2,3,2,3 = 106.Lukas Dryml : 3,1,2,3,2 = 117.John Jorgensen : 1,2,1,2,0 = 68.Martin Dixon : 2,2,2,f/rem0,1 = 79.Craig Watson : 3,3,3,3,2 = 1410.Mark Steel : 0,ret,ret,ret,0 = 011.Rusty Harrison : 1,0,1,ef,f/rem = 212.Alan Mogridge : 2,3,2,2,1 = 1013.Malcolm Holloway(r) : 0,0 = 014.Ritchie Hawkins(r) : 0,1 = 1Heat Details1.A Dryml (67.45) Allen, Coles, Fry2.L Dryml (69.90) Dixon, Jorgensen, Holloway, Kristensen(ex/2m)3.Watson (70.27) Mogridge, Harrison, Steel4.A Dryml (69.15) Jorgensen, L Dryml, Steel(ret)5.Watson (70.12) Kristensen, Coles, Fry6.Mogridge (70.46) Dixon, Allen, Harrison7.A Dryml (69.36) L Dryml, Harrison, Coles(ef)8.Kristensen (69.49) Mogridge, Jorgensen, Hawkins9.Watson (69.77) Dixon, Allen, Steel(ret)10.Watson (69.33) Jorgensen, Coles, Harrison(ef)11.L Dryml (68.99) Kristensen, Allen, Steel(ret)12.A Dryml (69.52) Mogridge, Hawkins, Dixon(f/rem)13.Kristensen (68.74) Coles, Dixon, Steel14.Allen (70.37) L Dryml, Harrison(f/rem) Holloway(ef)15.A Dryml (68.77) Watson, Mogridge, JorgensenGrand Final : Ales Dryml, Lukas Dryml, Craig Watson, Claus Kristensen(ef)Ray Morse Memorial MeetingIndividual Scorers1.Graig Gough : 1,ef = 12.Gary Phelps : 3,3 = 63.Simon Paget : ret,1 = 14.Ritchie Hawkins : 2,3 = 55.Lee Herne : 2,2 = 46.Jason King : ef,fell = 0Heat Details1.Phelps (73.34) Hawkins, Gough, Paget(ret)2.Phelps (73.93) Herne, Gough(ef) King(ef)3.Hawkins (73.27) Herne, Paget, King(fell)Semi Final - Herne (64.46) Gough, Paget, King(fell)Final - Hawkins (71.59) Phelps, Herne, Gough Taken from http://www.oocities.org/supercrazyuk/Matchreport3.html

Perfect, many thanks! It was indeed the riding order I required. According to the match report, Simmons was unfit to take his awarded place in the final and Phil Crump was in the showers, so Autrey was re-instated to the final.

Can anyone offer a formula for an individual meeting for 12 riders taking 5 rides over 15 heats to qualify for 2 semis before a final? I've encountered it at King's Lynn 27/5/1978 for the Supporters Trophy. Thanks in advance.

Work continues on the project and there have been a few recent updates. Please read the opening post and get in touch if you can assist in any way. Collectors of junior results may be interested in these two new files, neither match was fully reported in Speedway Star. Heat details are taken from marked programmes: 10/05/78 Teesside Northern Junior Championship http://www.dropbox.com/s/psy8mja8zgchx4d/1978%2010%2005%20TNJC.pdf 29/09/83 Middlesbrough Tiger Cubs v Wimbledon Junior Chalfont Dons http://www.dropbox.com/s/1r0uuenrw5qrvdi/1983%2009%2029%20Midd%20v%20Wimb.pdf

Speedway Star reports this heat (13) as void. Do you recall what happened? The 1991 Coventry one, was that when the referee (Will Hunter?) excluded the only remaining rider (Rick Miller?) for not trying?

Thank you kindly.

Ghostwalker, can you confirm the referee for the Smederna meeting? Also, heat 12 - did Michelsen definitely complete the race? He seemed to grind to a complete halt on the last bend. Thanks.

I just dug out the programme for this and - it's blank. Programmed line-up any use to you in the interim period?

I imagined the feed would come in on a bigger screen, apart from that pretty much what I expected to see. Cramped and claustrophobic but so atmospheric when you put the lights down. Nice work if you can get it, what's the dough like? The time has come to fulfill my destiny as the Ted Lowe of speedway. For those of you watching on freebie internet feeds the white rider is directly behind the yellow. I missed the Aspegren change as well. That's a rarity - a rider replaced by a reserve in a rerun with no exclusion or fall to speak of. It came up on the titles pre-race so no excuses really. He did correct his error, and mine, as soon as he realised so fair play.

Was the result of Heat 7 amended? Official Svemo score gives Jedrezak third and Kasprzak fourth but it was the other way round on screen.

The original colours were for reference purposes only, just showing the competitors. Events 1 & 2 are the same, re-arrange the team names if necessary once the draw is revealed. Thanks for your PM - coding error now corrected across each round and the workbook, with qualifying round results completed, has been reloaded to http://www.dropbox.com/s/8z042fnfvqun2ra/SWC%202014%20Series%20Workbook.xlsx

What happens with the bonus point in the event of a tie? Looks to me like no-one gets it?

When the commentator loses track of what he's commentating on because he's watching wee lassies doing handstands at the bottom of his screen he is clearly not fit for purpose.