Sings4Speedway

I think Speedway is definitely split down the middle with fans of a team and fans of the sport. Team fans want continuity of riders, a bond with the club and a feeling of belonging. Sport fans want entertainment, close matches a little controversy and excitement. Rarely these days do either group get anything close to what they desire and hence the mess the sport is in.

Roynon is included as a free preactice ahead of Centurions meetings, not sure if Wrights average would fit at 1 (possibility) , Coles has to be a step up on McGurk and could be viewed for a change or next season option? Its not always madness behind decisions even if it looks like them. Anyone know the actual riding order? Guess RR at 2 , Bowtell & Roynon at 3&4 , with Wright at 5?

Think thats for a rider with holding services....that said i can't currently find the piece about 28 day injury replacements so maybe its not actually a rule and everyone just makes it up as they go along anyway

If Tero was declared out and Wright signed as a 28 day injury cover then its all legit.

But I think that means it was fine for Thomas to return in place of Summers, Summers then replaced MacDonald. If Aarnio was declared out fully i don't see how he can come back in? Think its to prevent deals with riders being removed before thier average drops then resigned in place of a lower rider.

Ben Phillips has a busted Collar bone sobits for him. Means guests still for Gilkes and possibly for Trigger too? If not RR for trigger will be strengthened by guest number 1 and Roynon taking rides....down side is NDL has 2 guest bookings per track so options limited and prices going up.

I am very corrupt and definitely not to be trusted but still far below those who "run" the sport

Didn't think you can re-declare a rider into a side once they have been taken out? Only loophole i can see is if Wight was a 28 day injury replacement for Tero and then Tero returns and Wright is signed for Palin? That said in the best interests the Godfather can do as he likes.

Im not that corrupt

The disparities between the rides that 6&7 get are vast. A number 6 can do alright in heat 2, face the next two rides with tough riders and then often get pulled from thier last ride as the 7 has been scoring in the "easier" heats.

It is a vastly out dated quotation that has caused far more harm than good throughout it use over the years and needs to be put to bed. I am fully aware of who you are, who you are grandfather of and your prowess (or lack of) for manoeuvring a trailer. If you are ignorant enough to be using the quote on the first place you clearly do not understand its harmfulness. Good day.

The cause of and solution to all of Buxtons/Speedways/Lifes problems....... .....all im saying is that there are plenty of venues that can/could have been run sustainably and there are clubs operating similar models that make it work. Venues without over baring and over charging landlords have a far better footing from the off.

There are about 20 things wrong with that response and you wouldn't understand any of them.

Crowds will come if the product on offer is decent. Riders didn't care that they stepped into the changing rooms at Buxton and then there feet were directly on the floor, they cared that the track was dodgy and that a great lump of concrete kept poking out of turn 1 every meeting. If that was dug out over a winter, the track re-laid with the equipment and offers of help that were there the rest could have sorted itself. Offer regular second half rides to emerging youngsters with the chance to progress to the main team and a conveyor belt begins. Finances might have been tight but a weekend track for a rider starting out is a huge lure. There are problems that all track face but with more clubs looking at venues away from established stadia and pricey landlords Buxton was ahead of its time, with a little more open minded approach the club could still be running sustainably now.

Repeating gossip from the uninformed? I spoke with two riders who took to the track yesterday and both said it was garbage, peeling up in chunks, ruts and holes all over the place. John is a good track man but watering too heavy in advance can make the surface loose and dig out badly. The early reports about the Brum track were good, recent reports have been sketchy and last nights conclusion was it was dangerous and neither rider was excited about riding there again. As you say i wasn't there and im definitely not likely to be there until the issues are resolved, Brum are hanging on by a thread anyways and blundering through meetings whilst denying any issues certainly won't last for long.

Thank you for your insightful reply. Fortunately i dont get to Brum much these days but was told a couple of weeks agao that the track is down to the base and after last night was told it was bald and plenty of craters on both bends. Oxford clearly not happy with it and took forever to get the 15 heats run tells something. Dust was always likely an issue and given the recent heatbits forgivable but when there is so little shale to water its even worse.

Ive heard awful reports about the Brum track tonight, bald, big holes and largely in a very poor condition. Meeting dragged out so long that 2nd half abandoned and another nail in the ever inevitable Birmingham coffin.

Glad to see Jack back and its great that Oxford are able to strengthen yet again but as the play off boat has sailed is it just further monies spent for little reward or part of the bigger picture keeping fans knowing the club is ambitious and likely to field an even stronger side next year?

I think his intentions have always come from a good place but actions are either cringeworthy comedic or just plain belligerent and stubborn.....think Laurence Rogers x 2.

Kent are operating the same model at Iwade and appears to be working, early start, early out (or stay and watch any additional second half racing). No need for floodlights, home at a decent hour for a decent dinner on a Sunday and its a more family friendly timescale.

Buxtons major problem (apart from Pipe) was that it refused to accept it was any different to other clubs and refused to approach things in a different way. If they had been forever open that the track isnt the greatest, we don't pay much but we are loyal to our riders it would have gone a huge way. Instead they were generally belligerent and chopped riders in and out the sides constantly. A weekend track with training and second half options could have churned out riders year after year but instead "we know best" closed a venue that was potentially ahead of its time.

Im sure Lynn were crying after that one, stroppy little bleeder needs a reality check.

They can and the other clubs can refuse to pay it. However any clubs that are hard to deal with generally find it harder to land assets in the first place. Ultimately riders talk and why would you allow yourself to be committed to a club that restricts any future movements.

That was the plan for this season and if a P'boro sized hole opens in the Prem then that will be the case next year. All the top flight clubs want more teams to race against (but aren't prepared to split the TV monies pot any further)

In theory a club has first refusal on an asset but in practice the rider can generally go where they like. If an asset wants a move to a different track for a multitude of reasons there is little practical options for the club to stop which is why its a an outdated and largely redundant system.