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ermmmm these are the figures, first one is the riders EL ave, 2nd is PL ave. So now what Bruv? Edit: by dividing the EL score by the PL score we get the ratio right? eg Cook 7.40/10.52 = 0.70 So by doing that for all 24 riders, adding the figures and then dividing by 24 we will get the real conversion. Which happens to be 0.6167, so the BSPA seem to have something right! Unless my workings are wrong! Craig Cook 7.40 10.52 Jason Doyle 7.30 9.79 Ben Barker 6.47 9.44 Edward Kennett 6.39 10.65 Nick Morris 5.90 8.84 Richie Worrall 5.78 8.64 Ty Proctor 5.78 9.22 Ricky Wells 5.35 7.81 Olli Allen 5.19 8.09 Josh Auty 4.90 7.25 Richard Lawson 4.80 8.28 Aaron Summers 4.79 7.14 Stuart Robson 4.63 7.2 Rohan Tungate 4.59 7.05 Josh Grajczonek 4.48 8.41 Ludvig Lindgren 4.48 7.28 Ulrich Ostergaard 4.43 7.58 Kyle Howarth 4.28 6.86 Lasse Bjerre 4.28 7.44 Dakota North 4.23 6.55 Kozza Smith 3.76 7.15 Tyson Nelson 3.59 6.16 Micky Dyer 3.42 7.58 Ashley Birks 3.06 7.3

Looks like he would be classed as a cat 4 rider so would be a 5.00. Sign him up now! In that case swap Mills from my earlier lineup and bring in either Snedon, Wilkinson or Newman. Manzares would start at reserve. or Richard Lawson 8.28 Gino Manarazes 5.00 Cameron Heeps 6.74 Leigh Lanham 7.16 Rohan Tungate 7.05 Ritchie Hawkins 3.96 Adam Ellis 4.25

This has potential and good experience at reserve Leigh Lanham 7.16 Gino Manzares 7 Cameron Heeps 6.74 Nico Covatti 7 Rohan Tungate 7.05 Ritchie Hawkins 3.96 Chris Mills 3.00

But its the PL that have priority still though isn't it?

Richie Worrall 8.64 Cameron Heeps 6.74 Mat Tressarieu 5.83 Rohan Tungate 7.05 Leigh Lanham 7.16 Ritchie Hawkins 3.96 Lewis Rose 3.00

Did we the humble supporter expect anything else from the BSPA? More complicated rules to be added to the already vast rulebook. Glad Ipswich are in the PL, Good luck Lions fans, think you are going to need it. As for Peterborough hopefully they will find a solution and join the PL.

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but this is taken from http://www.lovespeedway24.co.uk/ Speedway is at a crossroads and if ever the sport needed strong leadership it’s now. With the British Speedway Promoters’ Association members meeting next weekend and the Sky TV deal up in the air, the sport is in limbo. But does it have to be? I don’t think so. British promoters needn’t wait for Sky before deciding what to do with their sport. They need to decide not only what is best for their businesses now but what is best for their businesses going forward. It’s time for change. SKY - DEAL OR NO DEAL? Much is being made on whether or not Sky continue their involvement with British Speedway. There is little doubt they have done a super job covering speedway, but have attendances rocketed because of the coverage? No. Speedway isn’t football, so why do some promoters try to run it as such? In the last Sky deal, Elite League clubs received about £70,000 per club per year and, like football, most of that was gobbled up in riders’ wages rather than promotion of the sport. What a waste! Hopefully, Sky will keep on board with speedway although if they do, it is likely on a much-reduced cost to the satellite broadcaster. But you can’t blame Sky. They don’t dictate how speedway runs, they just want the viewing figures. It’s up to the promoters to provide the entertainment, not Sky. If the Grand Prix series was receiving such huge viewing figures, why did Sky pull out? Clearly because the viewing figures weren’t worth it. If it’s not exciting, people won’t watch, even if it is the world’s best riders GRAND PRIX RIDERS The Grand Prix series was always going to unsettle the sport and now it’s at a tipping point. Greg Hancock’s return to Poole at the end of last season was a case-in-point. For GP star Greg to race a dozen or so meetings at the end of the season may have helped Poole out of an injury hole but it suited the popular American equally as much. Greg is a great guy, but why didn’t he join Poole in March when the season started? Because his schedule was too busy, that’s why. The top riders, especially the GP riders, want it all. The freedom to race in all leagues and in the GP series when they want and at times to suit them. You can’t blame them for that. Quite simply, if GP riders’ schedules don’t fit into the British speedway fixture list, just do without them. You can’t have the tail wagging the dog. Having Britain’s Tai Woffinden as world speedway champion is great, but the sport as a whole in this country is the bigger picture and while Tai being world No.1 is a boost, it’s not going to solve the sport’s ills. You can’t tell me clubs would lose hundreds of fans by not having GP riders in their sides. I don’t believe it. Fans invariably go to watch racing and their team, not individual riders. DOUBLING-UP I actually found myself hunting through all the Premier League team make-ups one day during the season just gone as I tried to find out who Kyle Howarth rode for. Don’t get me wrong, Kyle is a great rider, but I got so confused with which Elite League club he was doubling-up with let alone which Premier League club he was attached to, I had to look it up! That’s absurd. I know my speedway but when someone like me who writes about the sport on a daily basis can’t work out which rider rides for which club, then something is sadly wrong. One rider, one team, has to be the way forward. I care not how. I care not about the outcry. If the sport wants to be taken seriously and fans to understand it more, doubling-up has to go. LEAGUE STRUCTURES Sky’s decision on whether to carry on with their coverage shouldn’t make any difference to changes in the League structure next season. A maximum payment system, no GP riders, north and south divisions with an all-in KO Cup plus play-offs at the end of the season and every club to have AT LEAST two local challenge meetings to kick the year off. You could peg, even reduce admission prices without the better rides eating into the profits – and the fans will still come if the entertainment is good. But bring back second halves. You can’t justify £15 for 15 races over 15 minutes in this day and age and call that a full night out. NO ‘i’ IN TEAM In most forms of sport, ‘the team’ harbours far more interest than the individual and speedway is no different. Fans go to support their team, whether the Witches, Bees, Fen Tigers or Stars. Fans have individual favourite riders within the team, but team is all in most fans’ eyes and speedway has a huge advantage over most motor sports that it enjoys successful team racing. Think about it. If you are a Man U fan: Do you want Man Utd to win or Michael Carrick to score a hat-trick but Man U lose? If you are an England cricket fan: Do you want England to win or Joe Root to get a century but England lose? If you support King’s Lynn Stars Do you want Niels-Kristian Iversen to win the world title, or Lynn to finish top of the Elite League? (You can’t have both). Speedway promoters need to protect their own businesses. Riders are happy to make choices, so promoters should too. Return the sport to the fans who just want to watch their team race each week. The riders have had their say and many current stars, including Nicki Pedersen, Tomasz Gollob, Jarek Hampel, Andreas Jonsson, Antonio Lindback and more have made their choices – British Speedway is not their bag. If top riders want to commit, great. If not . . . Fans don’t want two-weekly racing or racing on one night of the week just to suit half-a-dozen GP riders. They are not desperate to see top stars racing against Premier League reserves. They just want good, solid team entertainment. I know I bang on about second halves but it’s only because fans talk to me about how much they crave their return. Some things ‘back in the day’ were good you know! These days, meetings drag on, people in the pits oblivious to the frustrations of the fans who just want the action to come thick and fast, not truncated in the laborious fashion it can be. And why is it if there is a threat of rain, suddenly eight heats can be run in half an-hour? No excuses, it can be done and fans know it can be done – so do it every week. Grab the bull by the horns promoters. Riders come and go . . . clubs and their fans are permanent fixtures, buck your ideas up. Start listening to the fans – before it’s too late. Thoughts?

If there is a 38 limit...... IPSWICH 37.67 1 Scott Nicholls 7.19 2 Richard Lawson 4.8 3 Rory Schlein 6.84 4 Rohan Tungate 4.23 5 Jason Doyle 7.3 6 Jason Garrity 3.27 7 Cameron Heeps 4.04

As Sky and Poole seem to run the sport nowadays i think this us what will happen..... Poole to keep their Title winning side, with the points limit set to whatever their 7 riders combined. The rest of the EL can build upto them for a proper EL Simples.

Swap Nicholls at number 1 and Ulamek at number 6 and that would do........... Thing is though what will happen to riders like Tungate that have a PL and a EL ave? what comes into force? and that is where the like of Poole will gain and the "promoted" teams like Ipswich, Somerset etc will be shafted!

And there lies Speedway's biggest problem......thinking about today and not tomorrow

Of course they should. Get the supporters of tomorrow hooked. If I take my boy next year its then £20 for the both of us . Nothing is done for families. Also need to finish meetings by 9pm nothing worse than having meetings drag on when its cold

1 Josh Grajczonek 8.41 2 Cameron Heeps 6.74 3 Matt Tresarrieu 5.84 4 Alex Davies 7.38 5 Leigh Lanham 7.16 6 Ritchie Hawkins 3.96 7 Robert Lambert 3.00 Total 42.49

Ben Barker 9.44 Cameron Heeps 6.74 Morten Risager 6.90 Rohan Tungate 7.05 Leigh Lanham 7.16 Ritchie Hawkins 3.96 Adam Ellis 4.25 Total 45.50

can have him next year too :-)

Ipswich select side will be lucky to get 30 on friday. same old same old for the Witches. Derek Sneddon take a bow son! Match winner and dragged his team into the play off finals. True captains performance. If you ever want a home track down south, you be welcome anytime!

rolling Klindt...... heat 3

rolling bach..... heat 1

Shouldn't be a problem should it? Hour and a half to complete 15 races, thats 6 minutes per heat, easy! Only thing is Witches are using R/R so will be a couple of 2 on the trots

Now that would be funny!

Think it will be a bit of a damp squib of a meeting, nothing to ride for (expect pride) and only 3 Witches riding. But ya never know, could be in for a cracker......rain looks like will make an appearance around 9.15.....

What would happen if tonight gets "rained off" is there a cut off date?

the sun is shining! yes really it is and has been since about 5pm, rained stopped so should be ok.

Just started raining in town centre.....

What about if they do it quietly? Hmmm forecast is for heavy rain about 4pm, should clear up about 5pm, but then back again around 10pm.....