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Everything posted by arnieg
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I think it is worth noting that although 1985 and 2004 show similar numbers of meetings the breakdown between leagues is very different. In 2004 there were less EL (BL in 1985) fixtures, less PL (NL in 1985), but lots of conference League meetings (compared with just a handful of junior meetings at Barrow in 1985) that with the (principal) exception of Wimbledon had very low crowds. And I think the quoted figures include double headers as two meetings. There were (approx.) 11 in 1985 but 68 in 2004 (source: Barry Stephenson spreadsheets)
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Isn't that risky? I recall Simon Wigg got thrown out of a meeting for having too much caffeine in his bloodstream.
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Yes that would... and I just knew I'd get Rye House wrong!
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Number one - no surprise - but I think 2 & 3 were less obvious. 3 Sheffield 69 seasons (1929-2015) only two blank years since 1960 2 Eastbourne 73 seasons (1929-2015) have included 1940 which is not in the records, but a programme recently appeared on e-bay. There may have been meetings in 1953 but there are no verified details. Seasons where the track was used for training only are not included 1 Coventry 76 seasons (1928-2015) includes unlicensed meetings in 1936; has staged league speedway for 68 seasons in a row
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What are the highlighted matches on the 2013 list?
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and as we approach the coveted number one spot: 7 Rye House 63 seasons (1934-2015) aggregate for all three tracks (the original track was on site of go-cart circuit, but as it was within the curtilage of the same site I have aggregated them). There are some additional seasons when track was used for training, but no meetings were staged. 6 Ipswich 63 seasons (1950-2015) including an unbroken run since 1969 5 Swindon 67 seasons (1949-2015) 67 consecutive seasons of league racing 4 Poole 68 seasons (1948-2015) unbroken since opening, with one year of non-league speedway (1957)
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Would that require Borders Agency consent? Would they give it if it resulted in the dropping of a British rider?
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and the next batch: 11 Wolverhampton 61 seasons (1928-2015) includes a single open meeting in 1950 10 Exeter 61 seasons (1929-2005) includes amateur meetings in 1934 9 Oxford 62 seasons (1939-2007) includes 59 consecutive seasons, does not include mixed meetings post 2007 which included a few 'dirt-track' races 8 Wimbledon 62 seasons (1928-2005) The highest placed track no longer operating
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This will answer a lot of the questions raised above: http://www.speedwayresearcher.org.uk/1965.html but will produce another batch just as long!
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Mike Farrell programmed at no 2
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and continuing: 15 Middlesbrough, Cleveland Park 50 seasons(1928-1996) includes 1953-55 when 7(?) closed to club ACU licensed meetings were staged 14 King's Lynn 50 seasons (1965-2015) does not include one-off charity grass speedway meetings staged in 1952 & 53. Since opening 1996 has been the only year without speedway at Saddlebow Road 13 Newcastle, Brough Park 58 seasons (1929-2015) in no less than eight seperate spells 12 Belle Vue, Hyde Road 59 seasons (1929-87) without interruption including wartime period
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For the Reading ones: 10/4 none named - I'd guess Underwood and Gledhill were reserves for all four teams and then simply allocated to the first teams that needed reserves 11/5 Bob Humphreys and Ian Glledhill (per blank programme) 19/6 as for 10/4. Note Humphreys rode for Bristol in the match but then started in the Poole heat of the 'Victor Ludicrous' 4/9 Henryk Glucklich (he did ride in 2nd half) 16/10 Kevin Bowen - named in programme also: Belle Vue 10/6 Andy Heyes - per blank programme (also programmed to ride for BV in Scot Junior Lge match in 2nd half) 3/7 meeting cpostponed Birm 29/3Stuat Mountford (100% certain), 17/4 & 8/5 Andy Grahame (named in prog) 15/5 Grahame & Mountford (named in prog) 30/10 Grahame & Mick Blaynee (named in prog) Boston 15/10 filled in prog has no P'boro reserve named Bristol 14/7 Derek Hole, Les Rumsey, Graham Jones (named in prog) Cradley 29/7 not named in filled in programme I have Crayford 19/9 Tony Featherstone, Richard Davey, John Hooper, Tony Garrad (named in prog) Hackney 4/8 Ian Gledhill (100% certain)
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I know - I read it in a book somewhere
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OK I've done a list of the tracks that have operated for most seasons. I have included any track that staged at least one speedway meeting. In some cases these are ACU licensed amateur meetings (e.g. Exeter 1934, Middlesbrough 1953-55) or pirate meetings (e.g. Coventry 1936, Cradley 1959). There are examples (notably Eastbourne and Rye House) where training took place but no actual meetings took place - these have not been included. nb 2015 included for those tracks who are running this year. Principal sources: 'Homes of British Speedway' and Speedway Researcher website I don't claim this list is 100% accurate, and there are some areas open to interpretation (e.g. just how many tracks have there been at Rye House?). So counting down to number one, here we go with the first five: (note: I can find details of meetings for at least 37 seasons at Iwade (Sittingbourne) between the years 1972 and 2013 – but have not included them in the list) 20 Mildenhall 39 seasons (1974-2015) includes training matches staged in 1974 19 Stoke, Loomer Road 42 seasons (!973-2015) only missed 1993 since opening 18 Wembley 43 seasons (1929-1981) nearly half of these consist of just one or two big meetings 17 Cradley 43 seasons (1947-1995) includes 1959 when just one pirate meeting was staged 16 Peterborough 46 seasons (1970- 2015) Unbroken since opening
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They operated on an open licence - and actually staged a couple of National League matches for Rayleigh. The second list - of pre-war tracks still operating - should also include Kirky Lane, Brandon, Wolves, Birmingham, Newcastle and Sheffield.
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This is just silly. I wouldn't expect an on-duty policeman to be doing the testing. Are you seriously suggesting that as taxpayers we pay for the British police to do drug testing at sporting events? Surely under the Governing body rules somebody is responsible for ensuring that an appropriately qualified person does the testing - and who could be more appropriate than an off-duty policeman. I have sat on dozens of quasi-judicial tribunals and this sounds exactly like the kind of nonsense that someone without a leg to stand on comes up with.
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Interestingly two of the tracks named by the OP have had fallow years [King's Lynn 1996 and Sheffield 1989-90]. longest running tracks are: 1948 Poole and Coventry 1949 Swindon 1969 Ipswich and Eastbourne* 1970 Peterborough 1984 Wolverhampton# and Lakeside Several of these have come close to closure at some point. Ultimately I think it is a combination of stability (Coventry with 50 years of Charles Ochiltree being the prime example) and luck. A stadium on land with low redevelopment potential and latterly a lack of a Premiership football club are also helpful. * Eastbourne didn't start in 1991, but reopened when Wimbledon relocated to arlington mid-season. # Wolves have been open since 1961 with only a two year break (1982-83)
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Apologies I hadn't spotted that GPs had been introduced into the discussion. I agree with you too.
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My understanding is the semi points don't count towards the totals ( cf the SEC)
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Likes And Dislikes
arnieg replied to customhouseregular's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
The Provincials had the tracks and the riders that the NL needed, but I don't think fans were an issue. Can't imagine many Cov fans defected to Cradley and West Ham reported good crowds in '64 despite the proximity of Hackney. -
Dob 26-3-88
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Barker & Worrall In Argentina
arnieg replied to DutchGrasstrack's topic in International World of Speedway
First Round (result from sportowefakty) 1. Nicolas Covatti - 14 (0,0,3,3,3,2,3) + 1. miejsce w finale 2. Oleg Bestchastnov - 15 (3,2,2,0,3,3,2) + 2. miejsce w finale 3. Fernando Garcia - 18 (3,2,3,3,3,3,1) + 3. miejsce w finale 4. Maximiliano Westdorp - 11 (2,3,3,0,2,1,0) + 4. miejsce w finale 5. Guglielmo Franchetti - 11 (1,3,2,1,2,2,0) + 5. miejsce w finale 6. Julio Romano - 9 (1,3,0,3,1,1,0) 7. Alejandro Ruiz - 9 (2,1,3,3,0,0,0) 8. Alejandro Iglesias - 9 (2,2,1,2,2,0,0) 9. Matias Lopez - 8 (1,2,0,2,3,0,0) 10. Sebastian Clemente - 8 (2,0,2,2,2,0,0) 11. Jonathan Iturre - 6 (3,3,f,-,-,-,-) 12. Santiago Martinez - 5 (0,1,1,2,1,0,0) 13. Milen Manev - 5 (1,1,1,1,1,0,0) 14. Jakub Jamróg - 3 (3,r,f,-,-,-,-) 15. Alejandro Polenta - 3 (0,0,2,1,0,0,0) 16. Gustavo Curzio - 3 (0,1,0,1,1,0,0) 17. Facundo Cuello - 0 (0,0,x,0,0,0,0) 18. Rodrigo Zubeldia - 0 (r,0,0,0,0,0,0) 19. Matias Diaz - 0 (0,0,0,0,0,0,0_ 20. Matias Clemente - 0 (0,0,0,0,0,0,0) -
Barker & Worrall In Argentina
arnieg replied to DutchGrasstrack's topic in International World of Speedway
I don't recall the first two named having been there before. I do recall several riders leaving Argentina and making critical comments about safety when Matej Duh had a fatal accident two years ago. I also recall that a few years ago there were two rival championships running against each other. The FIM do not seem to be in a hurry to return to Argentina after the world under 21 final jaunt. Although conjecture I think it quite likely that Barker and Worrall would have been in a more difficult position as representatives of the country that has occupied "their beloved Malvinas" -
So could a PL team name (say) Max Dilger in their team having already agreed terms with Ellis and then redeclare their team after one match?
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2012 clashed with the European Championship Denmark v Netherlands match. Speedway is very Jutland centric in Denmark - Slangerup is the only senior track on Zealand Must admit I was surprised when I looked up the Danish attendances: 2009 2014 Holsted 1532 1964 Esbjerg 1457 2948 Slangerup 1090 1139 Fjelsted 967 977 Grindsted 805 1507 Brovst 644 --- Vojens 555 --- Holstebro 484 1976 Munkebo --- 1274 Outrup --- 667 League Ave: 942 1556 up 65% It suggests to me that the British Elite League will soon slip to number four position in the world