Mimmo

I don't think it was a case of him riding into the marshall. Rightly or wrongly, he was at a snails pace turning right into the exit entrance of the pits, when the flag marshall stepped to his left in an attempt to get him to return to the centre green. Unfortunately, the rider saw red, and wrongly did what he did. But it wan't a case of him riding into someone.

Maybe so, but he was turning to enter the 'Exit' gate. I agree that the three riders involved should receive punishment, although I thought there was a fourth Eastbourne rider involved, but for goodness sake, Neil was at the meeting, and must have heard and seen the wind-up job being carried out by certain Eastbourne officials even before the riders went on parade, and they too should be punished. Just my opinion, and yes I was there as a neutral observer on a short holiday.

I'm not condoning what took place during those mad few minutes, and punishment should be handed out to every last person that was involved and can be identified, but as a neutral attending the meeting, and standing almost in front of where the happening that sparked of the incidents took place, my honest opinion was the Craig Cook was in the process of turning his machine towards the pit gate.

It's very strange, as some people are opening them okay, and others like yourself can't, and I'm afraid I don't have an answer to that. If you're on Facebook, you can see them all on the MSDL page, and hopefully they'll be on the British Speedway website at the end of the season. RIDER MEETINGS RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Kieran Douglas 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Connor King 2 7 20 0 20 11.43 Tom Spencer 5 16 44 3 47 11.00 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Luke Barnes 2 4 10 1 11 10.00 Chad Wirtzfeld 2 6 15 0 15 10.00 James Laker 7 20 49 1 50 9.80 Arran Butcher 8 25 61 2 63 9.76 Elliot Kelly 2 5 12 0 12 9.60 Jacob Clouting 3 9 21 0 21 9.33 Jamie Bursill 2 4 9 0 9 9.00 Chris Watts 7 23 51 0 51 8.87 Joe Alcock 4 11 24 1 25 8.73 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Adam Sheppard 8 21 39 2 41 7.43 Luke Muff 4 12 22 1 23 7.33 Stephen Whitehouse 2 6 11 0 11 7.33 William O’Keefe 6 16 29 2 31 7.25 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 Luke Whitehead 2 8 14 1 15 7.00 Danny Woodward 5 16 28 3 31 7.00 Nick Laurence 4 11 19 1 20 6.91 Adam Barber 3 9 15 4 19 6.67 Morgan Williams 6 15 23 2 25 6.13 James Chattin 7 23 32 4 36 5.57 Bailey Fellows 4 12 15 5 20 5.00 Max Pankhurst 4 11 13 5 18 4.73 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Tim Colley 5 16 18 3 21 4.50 Kris Andrews 5 15 16 5 21 4.27 Jacob Fellows 7 21 21 6 27 4.00 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 Rhys Laker 5 16 16 6 22 4.00 James Luckham 1 3 3 2 5 4.00 Jamie Sealey 6 19 19 1 20 4.00 Kai Ward 2 6 6 1 7 4.00 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 4 11 9 1 10 3.27 Ben Phillips 5 11 9 1 10 3.27 Sam Peters 5 14 10 2 12 2.86 James Spencer 5 14 10 3 13 2.86 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Sam Boon 4 9 4 0 4 1.78 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 6 18 8 1 9 1.78 Eli Meadows 3 9 4 2 6 1.78 Craig Osborne 4 12 4 2 6 1.33 Rachel Hellowell 2 6 0 0 0 0.00 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE 2019 Compiled by Mike Moseley TEAM MAT WON DRAWN LOST FOR AGAINST TOTAL Birmingham 8 7 0 1 175 110 14 Carmarthen 6 5 0 1 115 90 10 Exeter 8 5 0 3 143 133 10 Isle of Wight 8 4 0 4 148 136 8 Reading 7 3 0 4 114 113 6 Weymouth 7 0 1 6 96 141 1 Milton Keynes 6 0 1 5 70 138 1 BIRMINGHAM 1st May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 26: Tom Spencer 8 Arran Butcher 8 Sheldon Davies 7 Jacob Fellows 3 READING 10: Nick Laurence 4 Sam Norris 3 William O’Keefe 3 Ben Phillips 0 29th May 2019 BIRMINGHAM 27: Tom Spencer 9 Sheldon Davies 7 Ben Phillips 6 Arran Butcher 5 MILTON KEYNES 8: Luke Muff 4 George Beall 3 Craig Osborne 1 Sam Boon 0 3rd July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Tom Spencer 9 Arran Butcher 7 Bailey Fellows 4 Jacob Fellows 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 7 Eli Meadows 4 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 24th July 2019 BIRMINGHAM 21: Arran Butcher 12 Sheldon Davies 5 Jacob Fellows 4 Rachel Hellowell 0 EXETER 15: Saul Bulley 6 Adam Sheppard 5 James Chattin 2 Max Pankhurst 2 CARMARTHEN 22nd June 2019 CARMARTHEN 18: Joe Alcock 6 Adam Barber 5 Tim Colley 4 Luke Barnes 3 WEYMOUTH 12: James Laker 6 James Jessop 4 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 2 Ben Phillips 0 29th June 2019 CARMARTHEN 21: Tim Colley 6 Joe Alcock 6 Luke Whitehead 5 Danny Woodward 4 BIRMINGHANM 14: Arran Butcher 9 Jacob Fellows 3 Bailey Fellows 2 Rachel Hellowell 0 6th July 2019 CARMARTHEN 16: Elliot Kelly 6 Danny Woodward 6 Adam Barber 3 Tim Colley 1 EXETER 19: Adam Sheppard 8 James Chattin 5 Jamie Bursill 5 Kris Andrews 1 EXETER 24th May 2019 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 7 James Chattin 6 Kris Andrews 5 Max Pankhurst 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Connor King 11 Morgan Williams 3 Ben Ilsley 1 Jamie Sealey 0 5th July 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 5 Adam Sheppard 5 Kris Andrews 2 Kai Ward 2 READING 16: Jacob Cloutng 9 Jamie Bursill 4 Russell Barnett 2 William O’Keefe 1 2nd August 2019 EXETER 14: Saul Bulley 4 James Chattin 4 Adam Sheppard 3 Kris Andrews 3 BIRMINGHAM 22: Arran Butcher 11 Tom Spencer 10 Jacob Fellows 1 ISLE OF WIGHT 2nd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 16: Chris Watts 8 Chad Wirtzfeld 6 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 0 EXETER 20: Saul Bulley 11 Max Pankhurst 5 James Chattin 3 Adam Sheppard 1 23rd May 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 15: Chris Watts 6 Morgan Williams 4 Jamie Sealey 3 Ben Ilsley 2 CARMARTHEN 21: Joe Alcock 7 Luke Barnes 7 Danny Woodward 6 Tim Colley 1 27th June 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 21: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 0 WEYMOUTH 15: James Laker 8 Andrew Palmer 5 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 4th July 2019 ISLE OF WIGHT 23: Morgan Williams 8 Chris Watts 7 Ben Ilsley 5 James Luckham 3 MILTON KEYNES 13: Connor King 9 Sam Boon 4 Stephanie Whitlock 0 James Spencer 0 MILTON KEYNES 5th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 7: Stephen Whitehouse 5 James Spencer 2 Craig Osborne 0 Sam Boon 0 READING 23: William O’Keefe 7 Elliot Kelly 6 Kieran Douglas 6 Rhys Laker 4 19th June 2019 MILTON KEYNES 10: Luke Muff 6 Ben Phillips 3 James Spencer 1 Craig Osborne 0 ISLE OF WIGHT 26: Chris Watts 9 Jamie Sealey 6 Ben Ilsley 6 Morgan Williams 5 17th July 2019 MILTON KEYNES 14: Stephen Whitehouse 6 Luke Muff 5 James Spencer 3 Sam Boon 0 CARMARTHEN 21: Danny Woodward 8 Adam Barber 7 Tim Colley 6 Ben Phillips 0 READING 22nd April 2019 READING 16: Sam Norris 9 Adam Sheppard 5 Rhys Laker 2 ISLE OF WIGHT 17: Chad Wirtzfeld 9 Chris Watts 5 Jamie Sealey 2 Ben Ilsley 1 27th May 2019 READING 20: Sam Norris 6 Rhys Laker 5 William O’Keefe 5 Nick Laurence 4 WEYMOUTH 10: James Laker 6 Sam Peters 2 James Jessop 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 27th June 2019 – Amended Result READING 14: William O’Keefe 7 Nick Laurence 4 Rhys Laker 3 Eli Meadows 0 EXETER 18: Adam Sheppard 6 James Chattin 4 Max Pankhurst 4 Saul Bulley 4 18th July 2019 READING 15: Nick Laurence 7 William O’Keefe 6 Rhys Laker 2 Eli Meadows 0 BIRMINGHAM 21: Sheldon Davies 9 Bailey Fellows 6 Jacob Fellows 5 Arran Butcher 1 WEYMOUTH 2nd May 2019 WEYMOUTH 18: James Laker 9 Jacob Clouting 6 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 1 MILTON KEYNES 18: Luke Muff 7 James Spencer 4 George Beall 4 Craig Osborne 3 30th May 2019 WEYMOUTH 16: James Laker 8 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 5 Sam Peters 2 Andrew Palmer 1 CARMARTHEN 18: Luke Whitehead 9 Joe Alcock 5 Danny Woodward 4 18th July 2019 WEYMOUTH 13: James Laker 8 James Jessop 3 Sam Peters 2 Francesca Kirtley-Paine 0 EXETER 23: James Chattin 8 Adam Sheppard 6 Kris Andrews 5 Kai Ward 4 1st August 2019 WEYMOUTH 12: Jacob Clouting 6 James Laker 4 Andrew Palmer 2 James Jessop 0 BIRMINGHAM 23: Arran Butcher 8 Tom Spencer 8 Jacob Fellows 4 Bailey Fellows 3 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE AVERAGES 2019 League matches only. Averages don't include bonus points. (Compiled by Mike Moseley) BIRMINGHAM RIDER MAT RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Tom Spencer 5 16 44 3 47 11.00 Sheldon Davies 4 11 28 4 32 10.18 Arran Butcher 8 25 61 2 63 9.76 Ben Phillips 1 3 6 1 7 8.00 Bailey Fellows 4 12 15 5 20 5.00 Jacob Fellows 7 21 21 6 27 4.00 Rachel Hellowell 2 6 0 0 0 0.00 CARMARTHEN Luke Barnes 2 4 10 1 11 10.00 Joe Alcock 4 11 24 1 25 8.73 Elliot Kelly 1 3 6 0 6 8.00 Luke Whitehead 2 8 14 1 15 7.00 Danny Woodward 5 16 28 3 31 7.00 Adam Barber 3 9 15 4 19 6.67 Tim Colley 5 16 18 3 21 4.50 Ben Phillips 1 1 0 0 0 0.00 EXETER Jamie Bursill 1 2 5 0 5 10.00 Saul Bulley 6 18 37 2 39 8.22 Adam Sheppard 7 17 34 0 34 8.00 James Chattin 7 23 32 4 36 5.57 Max Pankhurst 4 11 13 5 18 4.73 Kris Andrews 5 15 16 5 21 4.27 Kai Ward 2 6 6 1 7 4.00 ISLE OF WIGHT Connor King 1 4 11 0 11 11.00 Chad Wirtzfeld 2 6 15 0 15 10.00 Chris Watts 7 23 51 0 51 8.87 Morgan Williams 6 15 23 4 27 6.13 Eli Meadows 1 3 4 2 6 5.33 Ben Ilsley 8 22 22 9 31 4.00 James Luckham 1 3 3 2 5 4.00 Jamie Sealey 6 19 19 1 20 4.00 MILTON KEYNES Connor King 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Luke Muff 4 12 22 1 23 7.33 Stephen Whitehouse 2 6 11 0 11 7.33 George Beall 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Ben Phillips 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 James Spencer 5 14 10 3 13 2.86 Sam Boon 4 9 4 0 4 1.78 Craig Osborne 4 12 4 2 6 1.33 Stephanie Whitlock 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 READING Jacob Clouting 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Kieran Douglas 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Elliot Kelly 1 2 6 0 6 12.00 Jamie Bursill 1 2 4 0 4 8.00 William O’Keefe 6 16 29 2 31 7.25 Sam Norris 3 10 18 0 18 7.20 Nick Laurence 4 11 19 1 20 6.91 Adam Sheppard 1 4 5 2 7 5.00 Rhys Laker 5 16 16 6 22 4.00 Russell Barnett 1 3 2 1 3 2.67 Eli Meadows 2 6 0 0 0 0.00 Ben Phillips 1 3 0 0 0 0.00 WEYMOUTH James Laker 7 20 49 1 50 9.80 Jacob Clouting 2 6 12 0 12 8.00 Andrew Palmer 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 James Jessop 4 11 9 1 10 3.27 Sam Peters 5 14 10 2 12 2.86 Cesca Kirtley-Paine 6 18 8 1 9 1.78 Ben Phillips 1 1 0 0 0 0.00

It was 6-weeks when my wife broke hers, and that was just to do normal work around the house.

Terrible looking crash, thoughts are with Thomsen at the moment.

4.76 at home

NORTHERN JUNIOR LEAGUE 2019 (League Matches only, excluding bonus points) Compiled by Mike Moseley. RIDER MEETINGS RIDES POINTS BP TOTAL AVERAGE Elliot Kelly 1 3 9 0 9 12.00 Ryan MacDonald 2 6 16 2 18 10.67 Callum Gill 2 6 15 0 15 10.00 Kieran Douglas 4 12 29 0 29 9.67 Archie Freeman 6 18 41 6 47 9.11 Josh Embleton 4 10 21 0 21 8.40 Danny Smith 4 12 25 2 27 8.33 George Rothery 5 15 31 5 36 8.27 Kean Dicken 1 3 6 3 9 8.00 Corban Pavitt 2 6 12 2 14 8.00 Liam Sharples 1 3 6 3 9 8.00 Luke Harrison 3 9 17 0 17 7.56 Ben Trigger 4 12 22 0 22 7.33 Ace Pijper 5 15 26 1 27 6.93 Joe Alcock 1 3 5 3 8 6.67 Lewis Millar 7 21 30 2 32 5.71 William Cairns 2 6 7 0 7 4.67 Gregor Millar 6 18 19 7 26 4.22 Freddie Fox-Baron 3 9 9 1 10 4.00 Danny Woodward 1 3 3 0 3 4.00 William Hocaniuk 3 9 8 2 10 3.56 Stene Pijper 4 12 8 3 11 2.67 Blair Smith 1 2 1 0 1 2.00 Dean Douglas 5 14 6 0 6 1.71 Caydin Martin 5 15 5 3 8 1.33 Mason Watson 2 6 1 1 2 0.67 George Beall 1 3 0 0 0 0.00

It's still opening for me when I click on them. I didn't seek permission from anybody, so I apologise if I've posted something that people want to see, that was never my intention to cause a problem with anybody.

I've now put all the averages etc., for both the MSDL & NJL in the junior section of the forum, if anybody wants to have a peep.

Midland & Southern Development League Results 2019.doc Midland & Southern Development League Riders Averages 2019.doc Riders 2019 Points & Averages (Average order).doc

Northern Junior League Results 2019.doc Northern Junior League Riders Averages 2019.doc Riders 2019 Points & Averages (Average order).doc

Midland & Southern Development League Riders Averages 2019.doc

Riders 2019 Points & Averages (Average order).doc

Thanks Trees, I provided all the results. I did provide averages too, but either they didn't want to use them, or there was lack of space.

Just read an earlier posting where you say you've found the Facebook page, so am pleased about that. Do you think you couldn't find it originally as you kept referring to it as the MDSL when in actual fact it's the MSDL? Anyway, problem hopefully over now.

Can you not read properly gustix? Once again I've been uploading information onto all the junior league facebook pages for I think it's the past 3-years, with this being the fourth. They've always been shown on the British Speedway Website at regular intervals, although none have so far this season, and Laurence Rogers has put them onto this very forum on my behalf over the years, as I had trouble doing so. So I'm finding it difficult to work out whether you are just not looking very hard, or you are just trying to be awkward for only reasons you'd know. I spend hours producing these facts 'n figures, receiving huge amounts of public compliments from riders, promoters, families etc., and I even appreciate that the one rider who doesn't like the fact that I calculate averages minus points. The fact I'm spending hours at hospital comforting and supporting my wife who is undergoing an 18-week course of chemotherapy for breast, hip and double lung cancers, makes your comments very hurtful.

Think you might have misunderstood what I meant. All I was saying was the clubs that do run MSDL meetings can't seem to get the pulic to stay and watch once the main event has finished. I went to one particular meeting at Mildenhall this season, where the junior second half was way better than the team match that had taken place first. If folk have paid their money to get in, you might as well stay and get your monies worth, and that apart, the riders deserve the same sort of respect as those in the league above, they're putting their well being on the line just as much as anybody else.

Spot on with those comments, although I don't think all clubs blank these very important junior meetings out, although the paying public seem to on race-days.

THE MSDL has it's own Facebook Page, as did the leagues when they were seperate last year, along with the Northen Junior League. Redcar has it's own page devoted to Junior Meetings, so don't know how you can say that gustix. I've spent hour upon hour of my own time providing these details for these websites.

I still read all my copy okay other than the 'This Week In the Premiership, Championship or National League' by David Rowe, which I find a waste of time. I'm with the brigade that would still like to see Heat times, but that's just because of the type of records I like to keep. I'd also like to see less Overseas News, yet at the same time have to accept it's a world wide magazine, so they are entitled to information they are paying for. Cut out the Grass Track stuff, as Motorcycle News may well cover that for their followers. Over the years (quite a few years ago now I must admit) I have provided match reports for speedway publications (I think the Speedway Mail was the main one), and I have NEVER been a paid any money for doing so, as has been the case over the years for writing articles in club programmes and providing quiz items, which I still do for Berwick. I've always done these things, and still do in the Berwick programme, purely for my love of the sport, so don't understand why a press officer, or someone like myself, can't do the same for free. Whether we like whats happened this year with speedway's only hard copy magazine or not, I applaud their efforts for battling on through very difficult financial times, and at £3 a copy (less by subscription), it represents far better value than a club programme at the same price. With so many clubs using Curtis Sport to print their programmes this year, and yes, they do provide a quality programme, so many clubs that you visit, you are reading the same article that you read in another clubs programme. My local clubs are King's Lynn, Peterborough and Ipswich, and for a large part, once you've read one, you've read them all, so they become a waste of money. For me, Scunthorpe come out tops with a nice little issue for just £1, and it provides everything that Joe public require. Finally, just going back over the many postings that have been made by everybody on the Speedway Star subject, and I honestly do respect all your opinions, because that is your entitlement, like the above is mine, don't lets forget that even in this day and age, a lot of people still don't have access to social media for their news. Sometimes, it's because they are to old, and I'm not being disrespectful to anybody, to understand modern technology, or their limited pensions won't allow them to purchase such devices as Smart Phones, and I fall into the latter bracket. I do manage to use Facebook on my PC, but can't get my head round Twitter, Instagram and the like, as my brain is far to old to understand it all, so the Speedway Star is a blessing in disguise for people like myself. As I said, I'm not running anybody's thoughts down, so please, no attacking me for sharing my own.

I've e-mailed you all results and averages Phil, in case you want to use them. They are what Laurence Rogers refers too, plus The British Speedway Website uploaded them from time to time (not this season so far), and they are used in the Peter Oakes yearbook. I've had a lot of feedback from Promoters/ Riders and Families though Facebook, saying how thankful they are to me. I can send you the same details at the end of each week/month is you want me to. Regards Mike

If it's of any use to you, I'm putting results and averages etc., on the MSDL Facebook Page.

Agreed, I don't do Twitter or Instagram, and try to pick up all my news from club websites, which is what they were designed for.

Stefan is sore and has a burn on his leg so I understand, but nothing is broken.