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You don't get play off teams until the play off qualification period is complete FFS.

And the BSPA are compounding the issue by banning guest movement between the play off teams.

The powers that be probably feel it's fine to leave it as it is as its only effected one team. If that bonus point see The Aces miss out then all the better.

Yeh, that's what I said to those around me. It's quite often the case that the rider on gate four can come unstuck with three riders inside him. Just glad, Max, Steph & Steve were ok after their falls.

We make um, they take um. Still true and more so from next year onwards.

Rossiter is correct that the ref was poor. After Zagar was disqualified when he and Max tangled as they came off the home straight, many fans around me were unsure why all four back wasn't called. I explained that some refs can and do disqualify riders in these situation it's just a pain as all ref don't do the same so the lack of consistency causes confusion. As soon a Ward took Stefan off I said "oh o" looks like he's out, but no. He then did the same when Morris took Steve off so it seemed, if you were a robin it wasn't a problem. Lack of consistency with the same meeting doesn't sit well with me especially if it favours one team. I've never been as pleased to see the opposition take a 5-1 than in heat 13. I'm pretty certain the ref would still be running it now until the desired result was reached. Heat 14 will more than likely see the ref face a disciplinary as all of it was just awful. I'm still waiting for and answer to why Craig was disqualified after the race was stopped following Zengot's disqualification. ???

Must admit I was surprised that a Zagarless Aces out scored the robins over the latter stages 26-22. When you match the two teams it seems harder to lose but thank god for Rosco I suppose.

Need help with this if anyone knows what's what. Green light on. Rider gets disqualified for delaying the start and that running of the race ends at that point as a replacement is required. After this but before the rerun of the heat a rider then touches the tapes. Should he be disqualified from a race that had already been stopped and why? I've seen it twice this year but never before.

Before DAC takes over another thread with his anti play-off rhetoric he needs to get it in his head that the vast majority of the current 4,000 weekly attending EL spectators like them.

I think PC is more remembered for all the trophies and success he had both internationally and at club level. However Swindon...... Not me, but I hate cheats. I had another go at the management about this only the other week. Such was the outcry from Aces fans that I cannot see anything similar happening again. Fan power, maybe worth a try?

I think once you become known as cheats people can jump to the wrong conclusion. It goes with the territory.

Even if it's not ready 'till late May early June that's still enough time to run the small amount of EL fixtures. I'll be making a trip down when it comes off.

It's the rule for the play offs anyway. Darcy's influence, funny, very good. I don't think The Aces are reacting to sudden success but I reckon the team who have spent most of their existence making up the numbers may be. "Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value".~Albert Einstein

They could have just said he can't be arsed like AM & PK and just get a guest anyway.

Old system Team A scores 46 out of 75 available to them = 61% Winner Team B score 44 out of 75available to them = 59% Loser Joker system Team A score 46 out of 75 available to them = 61% Loser Team B score 47 out of 78 available to them = 60% Winner

I'd have just done onto others and paid them a fee and told them to score two or less. Just not made that way I guess.

If you get Cook & Wright then that strengthens you, unless they "do a Zengota".

And don't forget Batchelors unfortunate ef's.

One of the more challenging things in life is not being the guy who does the cheating, but not saying anything about it and going along with it.

Why would it be dumb? Unless you are suggesting the rider performed badly whilst guesting for his play off opponents on purpose. TBH I prefer your honesty about you cheating instead of this faux shock and denial from some robins fans.

Cheating scumbags.

Before DAC takes over another thread with his anti play-off rhetoric he needs to get it in his head that the vast majority of the current 15,000 attending EL spectators like them.

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Absolute certainty as Worral is second behind Garrity by 0.04.

Christ, it's only a bit of fun. I drag this one out every few years as some sort of pub quiz trivia. Looks like I misread the room.