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  1. The nine championship teams finished this season with a total average of 377.61. It’s been well documented that the five premiership teams aren’t bringing any riders with them as the top liners would skip the UK and the rest are already riding in the championship. To fill those 35 vacant spots would require using new (to the championship) NDL riders who average around 2.50, so thats a total of 87.50 to add to the pot. 465.11 divided by the 14 one big league teams gives a team total of 33.22. To create some kind of bargaining power when negotiating rider terms the limit would be set lower than that and most probably be around 30. Would championship clubs have wanted to water down their teams just to accommodate the ex premiership teams and how would they have felt letting riders whom they had agreed a verbal contract that there was no longer a place for them? The option of five or six man teams doesn’t sugar the pill either. Once you understand that one big league is unworkable with just 3/4 months to sort it out then the only alternative is what we have. Digging your feet in and saying I’m not supporting that doesn’t help whatsoever but then this has been going on for decades. Me, I’m just happy to enjoy that sixty seconds of excitement and I’m not bothered about the score nor what the competition is just that race, wether it’s U16, NDL, Aces or GP’s at the NSS.
  2. Never could I defend the play offs nor a division where teams meet 5 home 5 away.
  3. Starting in March the play offs would be in June. Clubs don’t run weekly speedway. It’s more like fortnightly meetings meaning the same club would be back in eight weeks time following its previous visit.
  4. Every time our sport takes a step back, that becomes the new normal from which to work backwards from. Rarely if ever does it step back, regroup and move forward. It just moves further back.
  5. More notice period for teams moving up/down. Early knowledge of league structures to negate riders looking elsewhere for their income. Teams and meeting formats to suit the rider pool available. Competitions outside of the current league set up. There’s many operational knock ons associated with above and that’s just stuff off the top of my head right now.
  6. If fans attend for two visits per team as they have done for decades then I think promotions will take it on the chin the fact that fans will give four fixtures a miss. With this year being very much make do and mend, it’s the best they could hope for imo.
  7. If you can call it watered down then that is due to Ipswich's Emil and Jason ditching the UK again. The repetitive part of the season only kicks in for the last four home meetings as that’s when teams visit for a third time. Whilst it’s not ideal we can only hope things are being set in motion for 2027. The reset to one big league would have been a disaster and will have hurried along the demise of the sport in the UK being an NDL+ standard.
  8. And let’s not forget Brady’s incredible foresight to save himself of the GP by riding sh**% in the KO cup back in March.
  9. That gives me a greater understanding of there you’re coming from as up to now I’ve thought a repetitive small league with a lack of variety was off putting for you and yours. The fact that a top rider or riders could entice you to attend is more alined with my thinking. You like the gold medalist and I like the silver & bronze. I think potentially losing these top guys and being unable to persuade others to come over will have a negative effect on UK speedway as as you put so well seeing the top man more often than not is a big pull.
  10. Give the fans a new variety of riders to see and visit but no shortsightedness and possibly greed has prevailed and we get to see the same rider over and over again, it’s just not doing it for me and at £25 a pop I can’t see us bothering to attend very often. Except for….. The one rider who I would pay (a lot) to see multiple times no matter who he raced for, if the clubs had the greed to sign him. I have literally no idea where you stand?????!
  11. Give the fans a new variety of riders to see and visit but no shortsightedness and possibly greed has prevailed and we get to see the same rider over and over again, it’s just not doing it for me and at £25 a pop I can’t see us bothering to attend very often. Except for….. The one rider who I would pay (a lot) to see multiple times no matter who he raced for, if the clubs had the greed to sign him. I have literally no idea where you stand?????!
  12. That’s why I go and why I enjoy the Colts so much. Unfortunately many fans don’t and the draw of the top riders is a true and definite thing despite what’s written on here. At the NSS, Colts fixtures get more fans than U16 events, Aces fixtures get more fans than Colts, PCMT get more fans than Aces and GP’s get more fans than PCMT. It all down to the level of rider on show. Also on each of these steps fans are happy to pay more to watch these top riders.
  13. Never get any meat on the bones to debates on here, so I’ll have a go and people can add their ideas (or not). Norick Will MPT Jake Worrall Jack Smith Billy Budd V Troy Batchelor Freddy Hodder Jake Allen Jody Scott Paco Sam Woods Ben Morley It’s just not doing it for me and at £20 a pop I can’t see us bothering to attend very often
  14. It’s not compulsory to see the same teams over and over again. You could just do the same as the last twenty odd years and watch visiting teams twice, plus cup, plus play offs. Whilst missing four league meetings at the NSS isn’t ideal for the club, they will just have to stomach it. Signing Dan & Brady is seen on here as simultaneously throwing money down a pit and displays greed on the part of the promotion. BSF - have your cake and eat it, on any given topic.
  15. The tenth Glasgow v Edinburgh meeting went down a storm and was one of the most enjoyable meetings of the season for those fans. Ipswich visited the NSS four times last season and all were decent affairs. I’m guessing your wife missed two of those which is a shame given the quality of entertainment on track. For the coming season just take in two visits per team as has been the case over many years and leave the other visit. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. This coming season is almost identical to 2021. Could those advocating one big league post a likely Belle Vue v Sheffield line up and the cost of attending so I can judge how appetising it would be?
  16. Looking at the end of season declarations, Jaimon would have been number one at almost half the tracks. There were only six riders from opposing teams that had a higher away average than Jaimon and two of those have ditched the top league again. He is and has been one of the better away riders. His average was achieved at all the different tracks by using his skill has an excellent rider. Both him and Jason Doyle have almost identical away averages, both are terrific competitors and achieved FIM gold at individual level. Must be an Aussie thing.
  17. I’d have gone with the same team as last season apart from the one change we always need to make due to the rules. It’s more than likely that we will be helping other teams again so it may not be possible. Brady Kurtz Norick Blodorn Philip Hellstrom Bangs Zach Cook Dan Bewley Tate Zischke Jake Mulford
  18. With our Max rumoured to be leaving Leicester, it’ll only affect one team. The rule will probably be 1 over 7.86. When the NSS opened I expressed my concern about the leagues numbers dropping. I said we can’t ride against ourselves but we pretty much are. Be good to see the number ones spread out. Max, Brady, Dan, Jaimon & Tom. It would be an Ace league.
  19. Like Fricke to Leicester or Brennan to Birmingham when they both moved up. What I don’t want to see again is a rider who filled the number one spot for a struggling side get poached to fill a number three role for an established team. The bigger picture needs to be adopted by all.
  20. Kings Lynn are currently set to have just 18 meetings next season (16 league and 2 Cup). If they have a good run in the cup & play offs it could end up being more than the 20 meetings they rode in total in 2021. Peterborough rode in 24 meetings in 2022. Hopefully The Aces will complete the same amount this coming season. Meeting the same team twice every 2 or 3 months at the NSS isn’t ideal but for me it’s better than the alternative. A 37 premiership average equates to a 55.5 average in the lower division, add in the number 7 and it totals nearer 60. If Sheffield kept the same team as last season (not including the RS), they would total around 37.50 points so thats the kind of level we are looking at. Sheffield topped the table.
  21. It’s almost like 2021 all over again. Bit repetitive and we could end up riding against some teams 10 times instead of the four we did last season. Can’t see anybody supporting a repetitive league that see teams meeting 10 times in one season.
  22. It’s almost like 2021 all over again. Bit repetitive and we could end up riding against some teams 10 times instead of the four we did last season. Can’t see anybody supporting a repetitive league that see teams meeting 10 times in one season.
  23. The doubling up was crazy over the last few years. It would have been good if teams restricted their double uppers to just two in the top six. It would have made things more credible and do away with the scenario of having a rider at number one for both his teams. I doubt any team could have managed this over the last few years as restricting it to just two out of six isn’t easy and whether it could be achieved moving forward is a big ask, if we ever move forward that is.
  24. Indeed. It should have been invested in new stadia so as to provide punters with a better race-night experience, and moving away from the whim of a landlord. Then moving forward, invest in junior development that might have seen us unearth some medal winning Brits. The list goes on but sadly nobody grasped the bigger picture.
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