False dawn

That little known number "Extra Manoeuvrability"? Or perhaps "Your Cheatin’ Heart" or "Naughty by Nature". [sorry Matt!] Or Poole playing by the rules....... "It's impossible" What Kind of Fool Am I? Oooo. this is thread that just keeps giving

Quite correct. 8 + 1 from 4 completed rides. Had the almost inevitable fall and excluded in his other ride.

I was. A few stats (nerd alert).... DK rides = 5 and a bonus SW rides = 10 and a bonus That is almost enough to make the difference. But BV provided 11 of the heat winners but also provided 9 of the last places. tbh the real difference was the three 5-1's by Nick Morris and Kenneth Bjerre Leicester pulled off some good race results to keep themselves in it. But when it came to outright speed from the front BV just edged it. There was some spectacular riding round the outside, notable Erik Riss. The pity was that it was a very quick track (track record in heat 1) and overtaking was at a premium. Jim Lynch, in his match report points the finger firmly in Lasse Bjerre's direction. True he never was at the races but he has shown real promise in earlier results. Not the best entertainment. Certainly the hour long delay due to the sun was irritating. But I saw enough to go back. A warning to other teams, Leicester, on their day, can beat anyone.

I did decide to come to Leicester tonight. A nice night and the novelty of a full Leicester team. Well I got that wrong. Danny announced at the last minute as absent and now an hour's delay because the sun. We are getting fed up

Now RR for Danny King Now RR for Danny King

Ah but. Yes the financial side has to be considered (I want Leicester to succeed given that they are willing to put this meeting on at all). Would the riders accept a lower point payment? 3/4 of the proposed rate would do it. And given a good field wouldn't the gate return be better anyway? If the 4 "Bees" riders signed by Leicester ride for Leicester (which seems right) and Kenneth doesn't ride, we are faced with fielding a 2 man team with 5 "guests". Hardly keeping the Bees name alive.

I did suggest an individual meeting instead of a team challenge. All 7 Leicester riders plus as many of the intended Bees as possible and then the likes of Bomber, Rory, Robbo and any other ex Bees who could be encouraged to take part. I even suggested a certain GP rider might make an appearance. But the idea was rejected on the basis that the Leicester promotion, who are paying all the expenses and points money, bless them, would end up paying for more points, 120 (plus a semi and a final) vs 90 odd for a team meeting. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

I know. Hence my underline. We want BT or Sky to cover multiple meetings including our domestic leagues and KO cup etc. not just a handful of dates. We risk losing TV coverage altogether of any speedway in this country if the best riders in the World choose not to ride in certain events.

Nice to see at least one forum poster can have his mind changed!

You speak with real passion and I read with interest your report on a meeting that clearly left the fans short changed. Taking up the suggestion elsewhere why don't you repackage your two postings here and send them to Buster? In the past he has worked tirelessly to put on a good show. Express your disappointment and who knows, it might have an effect. At the very least he might respond and give his side of this. King's Lynn is a club with a long history who should be at the top of the sport.

Tai rode for us last year as a similar key player to Greg in the USA team and we got a silver medal. He knows that the USA has a chance of achieving a respectable result (ok, not a silver medal) with his help and regardless of his numerous appearances should be both proud to wear the stars and stripes and know that when your country calls, you should answer the call. Bringing on the youth of your national side is best done by leadership, not by sending them to certain defeat. Oh but I'm biased. If Greg rode in the King's Lynn round I'd go and see him. If all the best riders in the world rode in all the rounds, I'd take my friends and family and their friends and anyone else who I could persuade to go to a world class meeting. I might even use it to lean on the TV companies to cover the SWC as well as our domestic meetings.

I wasn't there and only have live updates on which to judge. But for Rye to lose this one looks unforgivable. A draw would have at least been fair but not the right result. To select Robbo for heat 15 ahead of Danny King given their respective race results (not just points scored) is somewhat of a mystery. I think Rye to have a hard think about running fixtures when they know key riders are going to be elsewhere and then not trusting their guests to give of their best when it matters.

Well that's a very good question. Reading a "roughly" translated article is risky, at best. I could extract any "truth" from that, that I wanted. Standby the forum truth seekers.

So we have two of the leading riders in the World not taking part in the World Cup. Hardly a satisfactory situation. Nothing against the other riders, but the prospect of Greg and Tai going up against each other at King's Lynn is (was) something to be savoured, surely?

Did I miss an announcement? Is Greg Hancock not riding in the SWC at all?

I read the title and thought, "There is only one for me, but I bet no one else votes for him". Now I find several people have already voted for him. Peter Craven, of course. Those pictures you see of him are quite outstanding and show a quite unique (almost) riding style.

Jason Garrity missing is a big loss to Leicester. He rides Wolverhampton as well as anyone.

Attention Briggo. Following your double action flicker and the Briggo dirt deflector, surely you can come with the Briggo track cover?

The price of success is high I guess. Bloody daft.

One thing Annie told me that I do now remember. He was on tour in Oz with the British Lions. I forget the year or who he was rooming with (might have been Nigel Boocock) but he did get fed up. Being away from home, not earning a fortune etc. Anyway he announced he was going home. The Aussie promoters threw their hands up in horror. Offered him bega bucks to stay and so he did. Hire cars, the best accommodation and much improved money. Oh, those were the days.

I knew Arnie for a while in the mid 90's. I was working away from home in Morley, near Leeds. One lunchtime I was talking to the landlord of a pub about speedway when this chap came up to me. He said, "If you want to know about speedway you should speak to that bloke there". I didn't recognise "that bloke" but his mate introduced me. It was Arnie. By coincidence I had seen Arnie a few weeks before at Sheffield speedway. A couple of the current team had persuaded him to do a few laps after the meeting. Not the "Golden Greats" performance you might have expected and he was embarrassed when I said I had witnessed his performance. But we swapped stories and became firm friends. He didn't drive and when I offered to take him to Sheffield with me the next Thursday, he jumped at the chance. Actually he was very beholding to me for taking him which was no imposition at all. I welcomed his company on my usual trip to Owlerton. Anyway we travelled together and much to my surprise he got me in for free as a VIP guest. What that meant was that Annie went to the bar and held court while I went to the terraces and watched the racing. No problem, we both went home happy. This continued for several weeks. Circumstances changed, and we lost touch. The next time I looked him up I found he had died and I was sad. A racer from back in the day. Contemporary with the likes of Nigel Boocock who was an early hero of mine and a character who knew the sport from the inside. I'm glad I knew him, even if it was for a short while.

I'm a neutral. Two teams separated by 8 points after 9 races with 6 to go. You can't declare a result in any circumstances. A result in the list of 24-32 is laughable, undefendable and frankly, a source of some embarrassment. And if you want to talk about value for money for the paying public I don't know where anyone can start with any credibility. And to top it all? A 4 point win. Come on, you're having a laugh.

Round 2 of the championship is at Somerset, this Friday 7.30 p.m. Entrance is just £10 I'm biased. I even changed my holiday plans to go to this one. However, I did speak to a fan who went to the Leicester round who knew nothing about sidecars. Her words, "That was the best £10 I've spent on entrance fees for a long time". Somerset has long been known as a venue for sidecar meetings. Racing is exciting, there is plenty of overtaking and for you petrol heads, the sound of those 1000 cc engines is unforgettable. For the regular Somerset speedway fans. You've got a whole week off from your normal Friday night fix. Risk a tenner and come and see something a bit different.

The key questions are... 1. Was the track safe at 2.00 p.m.? [Lots of folk around me thought so. In fact they were looking forward to Bomber giving large out in the dirt] 2. If yes, who brought about the track rebuild? [Lots of folk around me saw the riders healing the track and assume it was them that ruled the day] 3. If it wasn't the ref, why didn't he exert his authority? [believable? Well lots of folks around me thought so] 4. Did anyone look at the forecast? [No] 5. Are Leicester a little bit regretful about what happened given that they might have won heat 15 and maybe the meeting overall? [Lots of home fans went home flat, disgruntled and soaking wet] I'm just a homeless Coventry fan. I don't have any rights here. But I did talk to other fans, Leicester fans and they were asking all of the above. It's them you need to be careful of. A few hundred fans either way can make or break a speedway business in this country just now. We went from a track that would have been a bit heavy to over an hour later, a track that was bereft of shale. There was a dry line after heat 1.

I think we got at cross purposes. The track at 2.00 looked adequate. No more, just adequate. If there had been plenty of time, weather forecast wise and no one cared about the fans, spending an hour on further preparation might have been justified. Rain, heavy rain, was forecast sometime during the afternoon. The track the rider's raced on was as good as it could be. To get within a half a second of the track record proves that. Assuming you want to see that sort of track? The issue with heat 15 is that if the promotion / ref had told the riders to get on with it at 2.00, the rain would not have been an issue. My argument is with the riders in the first instance. The track was heavy at 1.45, but not unsafe. It was well prepared, even and would have dried out with a few races. The riders thought otherwise and the rest is history. An extra bit of grading is okay. Take the top 3 inches off the track, starting ten minutes before the advertised start time is not acceptable unless the track is sodden. Which is wasn't. The track staff did a great job. Just twice, unfortunately.