FAST GATER

I do think there is a place for GTR engines in league racing where the demands on them are perhaps not as great as the GP's ,it may well be the case that they are not as fast or adaptable as the GM's .However if all the riders were on them and with knowledge gained in setting them up this may address some of the issues that riders currently experience . My own thoughts are that it is crucial that the costs to riders /promoters are reduced for the well being of the sport but I do believe that the use of tuners ( I have nothing against any tuner on a personal level ) is an unnecessary evil within the sport . IMO their service/skills should perhaps be left for the GP level riders where the bulk of the sports wealth lies anyway

Rosco average rider average team manager below average pundit sadly

I thought it was a good GP and a great final ,"off night" for Doyle by his standards ( he is a little brutal in his approach for my liking) but I am sure he will bounce back and has a great chance of being WC .

Far too reasonable for s/way sadly could just catch the imagination of fans ,maybe be done in some kind of open meeting to test it

You are right of course the last place rider looks for issues is with himself but IMO the best riders are not always winning as they should but lesser riders on better machinery often have the edge .

I have always said that s/way is a team sport ridden by individuals and there in lies the problem IMO,there are very few riders who are true team players as in general they are paid on their results not the teams.I am sure there are incentives ( bonus points to follow team mate ) for the team winning but these are vastly outweighed by lining one's own pockets and keeping personal sponsors happy . Riders are fickle by nature in my experience and selfish ( not that in some respects that is a bad thing) what you propose would have to be enforced by the governing body IMO .Otherwise it would never happed as the only increased power and items which enhance the appearance of the bike are embraced by riders regardless of the cost which is quite ironic really!!!

Wonder what Greg is worth ?

i would suspect that this is the end for Greg it is a long time out for anyone and at his age I think it maybe an ideal way to bow out ,I think he will have time to reflect and the loss of momentum may just be too much for even him to overcome.

NOT a fan then

iT'S Doyle for me if he manages to stay in one piece he is riding out of his skin and IMO there lies his possible downfall ,I am not a fan of his robust riding style and feel he pushes the limits too far sometime.If he wins the title he will be a worthy winner he not in the first flush of youth and there are plenty of young "Bucks " waiting in the wings ,I suspect this year maybe his best chance !

Just think it is a season too many for Greg , hope I am wrong but just get the feeling that this could be his final Gp series .

Depends which Hancock turns up also !

It was brought to my attention last year when Peter Karlsson fell off about three times in a month( which was his own fault) more than I have seen him off in most of his career ,IMO the vast majority of modern riders are all but passengers on bikes these days !

Why do we need all this new expensive startlng tech for the sport that is barely surviving as it is ,make the riders return to the start unless there is a rider/s on the deck .If I wanted robotic starting methods I would play computer games ,leave the thing alone other aspects of the sport need fixing first IMO.

IMO it all boils down to the fact riders in general can either gate or not ,what ever rules that were dreamed up Mauger would always on average out gate PC .

John Jackson !!!

Doyle needs to take it a little easier can't afford to miss any GP's this year ,has real chance if he can stay injury free otherwise he may end up being a "nearly man" unfortunately .

I think that Doyle has come back in great form from his terrible injury last year and is riding has hard as ever but feel he just goes to the edge a little to often for my liking.I realise that is his style and has arrived on the world stage late many standards ,just hope he holds it all together for the whole series must be a good bet for champ this year.

must have missed that !!

Hancock easing his way back in thought he had lost his edge but was well on the pace tonight ,not popular with most of you I know just amazing to me at 47yrs old on Doyle's back wheel in final and making passes .

I think that this will be his final year in the GP's he has had a very serious injury just isn't looking like the rider he was and Hancock just looks like things are starting to get away from him I think that evolution is taking it's course no one can go on for ever sadly.

Mauger ,Briggs &co did something similar in the 80's it was quite popular but I believe that once a rider retires from the sport they are reluctant to return to track action ,I think also Ronnie Moore was seriously injured during the Golden Greats .

Spot on teaching old dogs new tricks is much harder much better to start at the youth base up, has to be the way foward

Sad that any rider leaves the sport through injury all the best for the future .

BSA/Triumphs were used on grass track particularly in the 250/350 cc classes up until the mid 70's when strokers took over the lower classes ,I raced a Barracuda 250 cc myself .