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Would never work. Much too close to Rye, the track would be tiny too. Possibly one of the smallest in the country.

Nobody to blame but ourselves. Maasen coming in when we have a free scoring reserve thus pushing Robin into the team was an atrocious decision in the first place. Trying not to sound like I'm getting on the bloke's back but it's just baffling. Luke did more than Greenwood would have today but our reserve pairing before the changes would have scored as many if not more than today's reserves. Especially as Robin could have taken two R/R rides while at reserve and he would have scored more from a reserve berth than he did in the team. Our season hinged on the cup and we've blown it. It isn't hard, play to your strengths, in Kasper and Robin we had a good reserve to back up a strong top two and we have decided to ruin that before our most important meeting of the season.

Maasen, awful signing.

I could be wrong but I think that the first three would come in on seven point averages and Castagna would be on a five. Kulakov possibly even an eight, seem to remember Bondarenko at Leicester starting on an right point average as a Russian a few years back. Think a lot of people are overestimating him, no doubt he's got potential but the NL is a weaker league this year too.

They were lucky that the points limit was raised. As catinthehat has said Len Silver oversees the training schools at Rye, he is in touch with the youth scene. Sittingbourne run practice sessions, there must be young riders there too that are literally on the Kings' doorstep. Then on top of that there are grasstrackers and motorcross converts, it's not as it there are no riders about.

Losing your best riders year in year out to the points limit has been the nature of the sport at any level in Britain for years. The Kings' top four is one of, if not the best top four in the league. Most of that top four was signed before the announcement of the points limit and that left the Kings very top heavy however. Now it is too late to make any changes without dropping at least two of that quartet which is highly unlikely to happen.

All depends on what country they are from and what competitions they have already competed in. If we gamble on an assessed five pointer then Robin would move into the main team, not worth that gamble imo. Even Wilson-Dean on a five point average would be a gamble somewhat, he looks impressive but he wasn't that much better than Morley round Rye and Morley is on a 3 point PL figure still.

If Perry is out for a while Luke Bowen would do a good job at NL level on an 8 point average.

There are plenty of riders of a similar standard to Boxall about though, whether they are the right fit for Rye is another matter. The heatleaders are where there is a problem, squads with teams having to use British reserves only is completely feasible and also better in the long run for British Speedway. Wilson-Dean has said he will only ride for Eastbourne this season, can't see him going back on that sadly. If he did sign then we'd lose Robin at reserve and I don't think that's a gamble worth taking personally.

With two changes, Boxall and Greenwood out, we haven't got much scope other than like for like replacements. Mattress for Boxall would leave us 3.57 to replace Greenwood. Hawkins would fit but he was dire last time he ride for us and it appears he's been the same this year. Better to persist with Greenwood or another youngster. If Kasper is out longer term we could make three changes, it'd be key to keep Robin at reserve though IMO or bring in someone else who could score heavily in a reserve berth.

So, Boxall's season is over. Personally think that's time up for his Rye career. We can't hope to get anywhere with R/R so we need to find a replacement really or make 2/3 changes and give ourselves a little bit more firepower at the bottom end by replacing Greenwood. Any news on when Kasper and Anders are likely to be fit again?

Good rider, has potential. Won't score as well as Allen would or guests have perhaps but a permanent signing is better then R/R for the Panthers.

He was leading the race at one point, Hughes passed him fair and square, he's not untouchable

To be fair he didn't cock it up at Rye, Hughes was comfortably leading the race by the time BWD fell.

Any reason Jack Smith hasn't raced for the Kings again since the away meeting against Cradley? He has a good pedigree and with a few meetings would probably be outscoring Verge. Having seen the Eagles at Rye on Saturday I wasn't overly impressed. The Raiders' reserves are obviously stronger than the Kings' but Kent top four is more than capable of outscoring their Eastbourne counterparts at Central Park. I guess that just highlights why the Eagles are near the top of the table though, they are scoring points all the way down the team.

Merely looking for reaction Ian, only one bite though haha! Was a good meeting, both sides threw points away with falls, mechanical issues etc. Wilson-Dean looks good. Was expecting more from the Eagles reserves to be honest, Wood picked up a fair few points through riders not finishing/falling although he looks comfortable on the bike which will always result in points at this level. Think he'll develop into a good rider. Kyle Hughes was very good last night, starting to look something like the rider he was when he was a Rocket again, if he carries on this form for the next month or so I'd be tempted to have a look at him in the Rockets team again. He'd score points at home in the PL.

Rye by 32.

Joke. There's plenty of English riders who are just as good if not better than Konopka. Perry, Carr, Crang, Williamson, Shanes, Halsey, Hughes and Payne to name some. It's really time to start putting assessed overseas riders back onto their assessed averages for team building until they can surpass them.

Because Morley is better round Rye.

Konopka has had his chance in Britain and been found wanting. Glad to see a young Brit has kept his team spot over a poor import.

Sorry but that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Both riders are in good form and Morley has done more laps round Rye than most so he is an ideal guest. Think the Eagles will win this, but it'll be close.

Think Nicholls instead of Bomber or King could have made a difference tonight. Granted he's not the rider he was but he's still out second best rider in my opinion, not right that he's sat on a sofa presenting the meeting.

I thought the conversion rate had changed along with the EL to PL one a few years back.

British speedway isn't very good I don't know if you've noticed? It's not devaluing the sport it's a fact. British only reserves is a good starting point for one.

There isn't a shortage of speedway riders. A squad system would work fine.