The Third Man

Thanks for informed reply, does it mean you now understand or not?

All the things suggested one big league wage caps standardised equipment will work if you don't have one promoter who tries to get round it, and that's the problem, promoters looking after themselves and not the greater good I am afraid there is no solution to the basic problem so there cant be a solution to the other problems

That's not how it works averages are based on each rider having four rides by heat 14 there has been 28 rides, that is 7 riders x 4 rides = 28 rides = 14 heats = 14 x average 3 points per heat = 42 points therefore a combined team average of 42.5 points will win the match hopefully that explains how averages work

So if four clubs want to carry on at PL level, or above, let them, the rest can then ride at what ever level they want no problem with this idea at all

All I can see if there is a money takes in the PL league is more teams wanting to ride in the CL, which is better for that league if it brings more teams into it. lets see how long the PL lasts in that situation, if they do it for next season we will see how many teams are left to apply to join the CL in 2020

are they making money at the moment? I doubt it so why spend more than they have to the one thing speedway needs is for all the promoters to agree the set up for next season and stick to it, if riders don't like it they can retire or try and get a team place on the continent as I have said the simplest thing is the promoters to work together for the benefit of the whole, that will then benefit themselves, but as we all know that is also the hardest thing for them all to do, but don't worry because I am sure a four team PL will work

They may start with just six teams but will they finish with six? this once again is the problem with the "i'm alright Jack" attitude in speedway

where is the major sponsorship package coming from?

It would mean the teams with the most money would win the league, while rest would go out of business trying to keep up the them

They either stick together for the good of all or speedway will die I am afraid it will be latter as promoters stick to their own agenda and not care about the other teams they need to form a meaningful league

Riders will only get paid more if the promoters agree, if by some miracle they stick together for the benefit of the sport as a whole costs wont increase The promoters hold the key to it all, rebuild in a sustainable way or go back to the free for all of 2017, and drive away more supporters

Will only work if the averages are set at championship levels, or it will be too expensive for most clubs

I agree with Einstein, and it seems we are going to go back to 2017 and hope it works this time, but survival of the fittest will result in only one team being left wont it?

Kings Lynn were top of the qualifying league for the play offs, Poole were top of the league after the play offs

Doesn't work to reduce costs as riders live all over the country Doyle lives in Norfolk, Doolan in Sheffield

Forget other commitments, injury cover only

So the record books will record that KL were the league winners this year, seems we all know the answer to that except Allitt

Fixed race nights haven't worked, clubs have lost more money because they ran on traditional non speedway nights. the only way fixed race nights will work is if we attract new fans who have not known any other race night, think we all know that wont happen

There will be no change next year the ones that want a "premier league" will get their wish and the championship will stay the same along with the national league. there are likely to be less teams in the top two leagues and doubling up will be back causing more guests and RR as the saviour of fixed race nights has failed So basically we will be back to 2017 with a reduced number of teams and a reduced number of supporters with even less teams in 2020. the only good news for me this year was that the lack of fixtures saved me about £500 compared to last year

Much easier to get the winner the BBC wants that way

So the tail is wagging the dog again

True, wasn't thinking there. But they will all have bumper crowds, and because of guests it will be a different team every time they ride against each other

Each team rides against each other twice at home, good luck to them, and can they afford to last the season?

but it doesn't work, the clubs with the money get the riders who are likely to up their averages, the ones with les money get the ones on the way down. unless you are talking about rider control, therefore allocating riders to teams

You pay what you want to pay, if everyone as a group got together to say No, it would be No, but the "bigger" clubs will have to get the best, so they wont agree, well if they want speedway in this country to continue, they will have to act in the best interest of the group, not the individual, so goodbye to speedway