The Third Man

It will depend on which track the owner / promoter wants to be in what league, it could be a result decided by economic off track matters rather than on track matters

True, need to think a little more before posting, never known it happen again though

Not the same but three Sheffield riders scored full 12 point maximums against BV in 1968, impossible to repeat after 1968 because of the change in race format does anyone know if this happened before

Looks like all the top 5 survived their matches intact last night, four of them riding for Leicester, if we get to play off wonder what guests Leicester will use when they cant use Sheffield riders

Maybe, but I cant remember when his last "day" was, certainly not this season

Firstly its not the Sheffield promotion who close the bar, however it has been open for league matches so hopefully will be open for the pairs

Cant peterboro be fined for putting out an understrengh team?

Its no good attempting a serious discussion with him idiots always win, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

So we allow promoters to break the rules because if we dont a track may close, that way madness lies

that's not the only problem, if it did happen which track would the promoter want to be in the PL? do they want Leicester to stay, or do they see more opportunities in Sheffield being in the PL? it could lead to a completely rigged match. bet the promoters didn't think of that either and what happens if its not Leicester and Sheffield get promoted, I am sure there used to be a rule against the same promoters running two teams in the same league

I would like to know what crime has been committed in either case. have either of them been arrested? has the verdict of what happened on Sunday been announced? if not them you are jumping the gun on Cooke being guilty of anything As for Holder he wasn't the first rider not to want to ride when others did, however in 50 years of watching speedway he is the first one I can remember getting a nine month ban for it

Just part of the cause of it

Guests have been allowed in this situation ever since i started going to speedway 50 years ago, so its not this situation that is putting people off. Our number 1 was injured, not riding elsewhere. the situation was that RL was at Sheffield last night when it was realised that JG was injured, easy solution ask RL to ride. Did you expect him not to ride to his full capabilities? I agree that the situation this season has got totally out of hand and we need to go back to using guests when riders are injured and not riding elsewhere

Just needed to change this for you

Thanks for that, he likes riding for his home team

That ended well, don't do the lottery tomorrow

Couldn't agree more but the problem is there arent enough of sufficient quality, they are already riding at number 7 in teams

Pot calling the kettle there

You really don't understand what everyone is talking about do you

they dont need to cooperate, they click their fingers, pay some cash and the promoter agrees to weaken his team. that's all the cooperation they want

Just to get you another bite from your fishing, as far as i am concerned Holder should now be banned from all BSPA meetings for the rest of this year

And there you have the problem, you want the tail to wag the dog, we don't need to be grateful for anyone riding here. We just want riders who want to ride and fulfil their contractual obligations

So he would like to win the cup but cant be bothered to help them win the fours on their own track

Altered it for what will happen

So thats Sheffield top now then