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Agree you have no idea, and suggest you actually go to a Devils match to appreciate that it would be unrealistic to expect running @ Ashfield to be anything other than loss maker.

You do not necessarily need to restrict the name as "Edinburgh" to a location within the boundary of CEC. When we ran at Powderhall, there was significant home support from the surrounding Lothians. When we moved to Shawfield, I would suggest we lost big chunk of our support because the increased travelling & also those whose exclusive affinity was with a team called Edinburgh Monarchs. Would you still follow Hearts if they moved to Dalkeith & rebadged as "The Harps" ?

Have you been to any actual Devils meetings @ Armadale this year? If you had, you would be aware that they have been sparsely attended. So, to expect the Edinburgh Promotion to run a team @ Ashfield next Season imo would be financial suicide. When the Edinburgh Promotion ran as the Scottish Monarchs from Shawfield in 1996, as the only Speedway track in Scotland that year, it was admitted that it nearly bankrupted them. If there is to be a NDL team competing @ Ashfield in 2023, then surely it will be run by Glasgow themselves, and it ain't going to be called the Dale Devils! For the Monarchs to return at some future date as "Edinburgh Monarchs" I reckon it would have to be at a location nearer the Capital, not further away, to attract viable attendances to support its existence.

If correct, what other income has it been generating for the owner, other than rental from the Monarchs, car parking, bar & catering? The only other possible "benefit" I can imagine is that a reduction in rates paid for an unoccupied stadium, outweighs tenant occupancy & use, during the Speedway season?

Will it now be appropriate to still run the 3-legged Jubilee Final, given the sad circumstances?

Well done Redcar, best team over the 2 legs. Even with a normal Masters performance, imo we would still have lost on aggregate. Re the play offs & Bears limited choice of guests, hopefully they can up with those who can perform up to the standard that Erik Riss would be expected to, home & away.

Hope that Fjelsted don't have a match in Denmark on 7/9, or Plymouth might need a further guest to replace Hans Andersen @ Poole also.

"Following tonight’s result at Plymouth, it is now confirmed that What The Fork Monarchs will face Redcar in the Championship Play Off Quarter Final. Dates to be confirmed very soon!"

Superb from Sam. All the more praiseworthy considering the injuries he is carrying and then being able to recover from the nasty crash in the first running of the final (courtesy of a nudge by Kerr), to win the re-run.

IMO Alex Harkess should have offered Ht 15 to Paco who certainly justified his inclusion based on his performance on the night. Got the impression when interviewed on his Rider of the Night presentation Paco was disappointed not to have been included for the last race. Everyone I spoke to agreed that they thought Sam understandably tired as the meeting progressed, and putting him in ht 15 done him no favours in his recovery from his injuries.

Believe the selection criteria is based on highest GSA rider available of each team, then the remaining six slots are allocated to the 2nd highest GSA riders per team. As Poole already have King & Lawson in the field, Worrall is therefore ineligible as he must 3rd highest GSA for Poole.

Watched Grinsted vs Sondjyland(sp?) on live stream yesterday & came off in his 2nd ride. TBH didn't look too bad, but he withdrew from meeting. Fingers crossed, nothing long term.

Or in other words your beloved Redcar who are the visitors next week at the Coliseum, could then benefit in the race to be in the top six

Scrub out Summers also as he guested for Glasgow last Friday.

Confirmed on Edinburgh FB that Barker, Palm Toft & Andersen all scheduled to ride tonight. Glad that Barker has been exonerated of any drug/alcohol misuse, and the internet vultures on this forum can now remain silent. Edinburgh FB have now amended Plymouth FB lineup to Tom Woolley @ 2 & r/r for Barker @ 3. Assume Barker still in limbo re result of lab tests?

Poole have an uncanny knack of visiting teams when they are having problems (in the right place at the right time). However even if Masters was fully fit, outwith Masters & Pickering, Monarchs 3 - 7 will struggle to beat their counterparts, apart from Ablitt.

Current details of the Project proposals, including fundraising/debentures can be viewed at:- West Lothian Community Stadium | Edinburgh Monarchs Speedway | Official Club Website

Reliably informed that the Edinburgh team manager saw Sam's foot injury before the meeting @ Scunny, & it was badly swollen. Sam is very loyal to Edinburgh and found it too painful to continue during his second ride. Despite the comments by the would be "medical experts" on here, it's not unknown for the recovery process to improve sufficiently 48 hours after the injury occurred in Poland, to be able to resume racing. It also should be noted that r/r would have been the only option otherwise for Wolves tonight.

In what way have Edinburgh jumped the gun? They have publicised their proposals they are submitting and thereby making their fanbase full aware of the situation. This gives the fans the opportunity to support the application in advance, be it financial assistance, lobbying local councillors, etc. Nothing wrong with that approach which are commonplace with those who are seeking permission to introduce new developments. As I previously stated, the Promotion have acknowledged the planning deadlines and that there are probably other interested parties in acquiring the site, so how has it led to people believing its in the bag?

Remember Sarjeant & Fredriksen have been sidelined with injury since 20th & 27th May respectively, and the outcome of this match may well depend upon how they perform on their return to action. Think the result will be far closer than some are predicting.

Some relevant points disclosed by the Projector Director have been reported in the Edinburgh Evening News include:- "Prospective buyers of the vacant site at Deans must submit their proposals to West Lothian Council no later than July 28" "There is a process through the council where they select their bidder and that is ratified, so all of that will happen in the next couple of months." "Through word of mouth there is competition for the site but we believe we have a strong case" As the above confirms, the Promotion have been transparent in their Proposal & Plans, that acquiring the site, together with appropriate planning permission, is not yet a fait accompli. Personally I'm highly impressed with their approach, which will hopefully encourage all fans to support this either financially or with other means of assistance. Reported feedback from local councillors indicates they are aware of the local community initiatives that the Club have been involved in for many years, and hopefully these will be considered favourably when a final decision on who is offered the site is taken.

That blunder by Alex Harkess in ht 6, when it was obvious to bring in Pickering as a TS. instead of Hook (who could have later taken Complin's 4th ride instead) as R/R, probably would have denied Oxford the 1 match point they ended up with. Given the tight race for the final top 6 qualifying spot, tonight's managerial howler could crucially benefit Oxford when the league fixtures are finally completed.

Still need to replace 25yr old Lewis Millar who has been racing since 2016 and has the second lowest GSA in the NDL of 1.50, the lowest being 18 yr old Eli Meadows who is making his NDL debut at Plymouth. Should try for Kyran Lyden who made his NDL debut for Devils @ B.V. & scored 3 pts finishing in front of homester Freddy Hodder & the pointless LM twice. Nothing against Lewis, but he has now been racing for at least six years & has not shown any improvement & if anything has become less competitive in the home matches I've seen, often ending up well behind the rest of the field.

Agree, and with two of the team rarely beating an opponent unless they fail to finish, the Devils management should be trying to bring in other alternatives. Don't know if he is still riding, but young Danny Smith of the defunct Gems looked a far better prospect last year than the "local talent". TBH as a spectator, I want to see a competitive match, but the Devils long tail precludes us even seeing any close home encounters this season. If we stick with the same formation, I very much doubt that the Devils will even pick up a single match point in the NDL.

FYI When Poland issue their weekend schedules , the PZM always list consecutive Saturdays & Sundays, & do not confirm the actual race day until c. 2 - 3 weeks before the event. This I believe is linked to sponsorships & tv scheduling. Furthermore Saturday & Sundays are the priority days for Polish fixtures which all contracted riders are obliged to fulfil. If anyone had checked previous fixtures held at Tarnow this season, they've used Saturdays. Further feedback from Poland indicates that the stadium in Tarnow is unavailable for speedway this Sunday as it is being used for a local festival event. The Edinburgh Promotion should have been aware of how Polish fixtures are confirmed & should have not agreed to the weekend date until the PZM announced the official date. They should have informed Glasgow they would visit on either the Saturday or Sunday once the the PZM announced the official date. This would have been c. 2 weeks beforehand. What makes it more galling was that Glasgow had suggested it be moved from their normal off race day of Sunday to Saturday, due to a possible tv clash with Scotland playing Wales in the World Cup Qualifier in Cardiff, which never materialised! BTW as the home team was Tarnow, kindly explain how the visitors "Rawicz, changed there fixture from sunday, to saturday for unknown reasons"