IainB

I've been busy watching some grass grow during the summer and now autumn/winter is here I've got some paint that needs to be watched drying

I'd be very surprised if the FIM & BSI were that forward thinking.

No villageidiot, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

come on racers and royals, don't be so rude not just you

He posted that he was on a wind up... after getting piled on though

I think the "Bfitish final" is hopefully a one off in these current circumstances, I think the wider topic under normal circumstances is an interesting one

One wonders if British Speedway actually knows who their demographic is, I know it likes to think of itself as a "family sport" but from what I see on the terraces it seems to be an old persons sport even though the competitors probably see it as an extreme sport, so who do you aim your stream and pricing at? I don't agree that "the stream needs to be aimed at those who dont attend Speedway regularly but know it exists and maybe used to follow it" or the neutral... I consider myself a fan of F1 but have never been to a race, having said that I do subscribe to the F1 channel, I also quite like to watch the odd Football match but would never pay to attend one or watch one on PPV TV... it's really quite complex when you start to think about it. Maybe they could/should be looking to team up with their "broadcast partner" to see how this can be made financially viable, maybe using the Eurosport Player

That's why charging a one off event fee will not work in my opinion. Boxing does PPV for one off title fights that the public will pay, although I never have, but I have watched them down the pub. But then they've also got a Box Nation subscription channel on Sky. I'd perhaps pay for a season ticket but not one off events at over a tenner a pop

Any advertising during the streams?

A tenner for the British Final is probably around the right price, not so sure for a league match though, it'll be interesting to see what the "behind the scenes" coverage is like, it'll need some buy in from the riders, interviews during the meeting etc. they need to be offering something on the stream that you can't get at the live meeting. Also they'll need to come up with some refund policy if the meeting is abandoned etc.

As there's a few comments on a few different threads, I thought I'd set a new topic up as streaming seems to be the future. I will be purchasing my first stream for Saturday's British Final... assuming a host of riders don't drop out at the last minute! But it will be a one off, as BSPL have been done up like a kipper by the government on this. It'll be a one off for me because of the pricing, what should the pricing model be? BSPL seem to be wanting to recoup all of their outlay in the first season instead of spreading the cost over the next 10 years... as it's clearly the future. It's tricky to price, as charge too much and people won't pay it and charge too cheaply and people will just watch it from home. Maybe it needs some out of the box thinking and selling it as a part of a season ticket package, attend home matches and get discounted streaming passes. Does anybody know how other sports price their streaming offerings?

Fake news

For me you just can't beat being there live, there's absolutely no comparison. It'll be interesting to see how the new streaming takes off for the BSPL, at the moment they seem to think that £13 is a fair price, I suppose market forces will decide what the price should be. For me that's far too much and only around a £5 saving on actually being there and having the "live" experience. I know there's other costs associated with attending a meeting but for me I'd often make a day of attending meetings further away from home and pull in some other local attraction. As a one off I will be re-investing my £20 to watch this weekend's British Final as I've paid it out already and want to help them covering their costs as they've been done up like a kipper but in the future I think £5 - £7.50 would be my limit for a streamed match, compare this to Eurosport, BT Sport or Premier Sports and it's poor value, and before anybody comes back to me explaining the costs involved, I know this and all I'm really interested in is the cost to myself.

Don't forget it's only Nigel Pearson saying this... Do we know that this is still actually the case now transponders have been brought in?

Thanks. I thought Dudek was wearing some kind of Darth Dudek voice box to communicate with the pits lol

Whoever directs the Polish TV coverage seems to be infatuated with him. I must say the TV coverage has been particularly poor this year, passes often being missed, reverse angles at the start, aerial shots during a race, lingering shots of the flag man and the fat bald guy with the glasses getting more screen time than the riders! Nothing against him... In actual fact he could be my twin

No, he can do exactly as he pleases... Don't know why I have to see him every time Zmarzlik or Lambert wins a race though do you?

My EPG says there's nothing on between 18:40 and 21:15 on PS1... Like I've said before, amateurs

At least it'll be caught live on TV when Bartek crosses the line to become champion again and the camera inevitably cuts to him

... Also, what is it with the bald fat guy with the glasses and his out of his league punching above his weight trophy wife? Why is Polish TV fixated on him? He's all over the league coverage as well!

SEVENTEEN RACE POINTS ahead not 7

I wasn't totally convinced by Zmarlik... until last night, he's a different class at the moment, the move he pulled on Woffy in the final, for me, is up there with the memorable moments of the GP's Tricks "wall of death" at Cardiff and Gollobs las bend swoop on Jimmy Nilsen at Bigdosh. He's head an shoulders above anybody else in this years series 17 race points clear of the next best (Woffy) On another point... did anybody notice Pat Dudeks helmet last night? WTF was going on with the front of it? 2:04:21

Winners & Losers after round 6: 1 2 3 4 5 6 Total Pts +/- % Old Rank New Rank Rank Diff Bartosz Zmarzlik 11 14 20 14 17 19 95 99 4 4% 1 1 0 Freddie Lindgren 10 11 14 17 9 15 76 92 16 21% 3 2 1 Tai Woffinden 12 15 12 11 12 16 78 89 11 14% 2 3 -1 Maciej Janowski 17 19 8 9 6 10 69 71 2 3% 4 4 0 Leon Madsen 13 7 12 15 9 9 65 70 5 8% 5 5 0 Jason Doyle 5 3 12 16 13 12 61 69 8 13% 8 6 2 Martin Vaculik 11 4 13 12 13 11 64 63 -1 -2% 6 7 -1 Artem Laguta 20 13 7 3 13 6 62 60 -2 -3% 7 8 -1 Emil Sayfutdinov 11 6 6 13 11 7 54 60 6 11% 9 8 1 Max Fricke 2 8 4 8 8 7 37 40 3 8% 10 10 0 Matej Zagar 6 4 8 5 4 7 34 37 3 9% 11 11 0 Niels-Kristian Iversen 3 11 6 3 5 3 31 30 -1 -3% 12 12 0 Patryk Dudek 5 7 3 1 7 6 29 29 0 0% 13 13 0 Mikkel Michelsen 5 7 5 2 7 3 29 27 -2 -7% 13 14 -1 Gleb Chugunov 6 8 14 16 2 14% 15 15 0 Antonio Lindback 1 1 2 3 2 5 14 12 -2 -14% 15 16 -1 Anders Thomsen 4 6 10 10 0 0% 17 17 0 Vaclav Milik 0 2 2 1 -1 -50% 18 18 0

Reminds me a bit of Jan O, he could usually find grip and speed where no one else could Either the Russian mafia has got to him or his bikes are running on novichok May as hold a GP in Blackpool then If I were BSI I'd pull him from tonight's GP, didn't even finish a few of his races. I thought the wildcard was used to pull in a crowd... as crowd's aren't allowed they may as well grant it to somebody who's interested in finishing races. Seems injury prone They're always wrong! You either need to be sitting down with a laptop and dictionary or have racers & royals by your side to understand at any speed what's going on. I predict a real shambles in the last GP when the winner is to be decided if one rider makes the final and another hasn't as people are trying to calculate who the new world champion is!!! to be fair it's always been the case... the only positive I can see with the new system is that Zmarzlik is only 1 point clear of Lindgren, where under the old system he would now be 14 points clear of Woffy

I think the Monday meeting was live, those numbers do seem very low! Do you know how that compares to the footy they show?