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Bjerre is not performing like a No1, perhaps Andersen should take that race jacket. I've never been DK's biggest fan after watching him do exactly the same at Coventry for a few seasons, always average to good at home, nothing away I so badly wanted Sarj to do well but with his seemingly uncurable starting illness is just a liability in any team he's in And everybody knows Newman needs to be at reserve, you can't have a team of 3 reserves

I suppose it depends on what you define as a good race flagrag. Did you go to the match earlier in the day? The difference in the 2 tracks is unforgivable as they were both recent blank canvas tracks. You know watching a race at BV that even if a rider doesn't make the pass he's always had the opportunity to do so, at Leicester a rider maybe chasing another closely but in 95% of cases is unable to make a pass. Look at the updates site 12 FTG's!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway is 2 or 3 as you call them top races enough for a nights entertainment? Surely you can't be defending what was on offer last night, or for that matter this season as proper speedway?

They should have been well used to a dusty track then as it's been dusty all season at Leicester with zero watering during the meeting Riss so clearly beat Bjerre I didn't realise he hadn't until I got home and saw that the score didn't match what I had in my programme app. Unbelievable Jeff!

Best race of the night was the race to start the riders practice lap before the announcer could finish reading the teams out on the parade! Another terribly dull nights "racing"

He didn't look in control in his Swedish league match when he fenced his team mate!

I can't believe Freddie's new hairstyle hasn't got a thread of it's own... so here it is! Now we know what was going on under his hat

OK something a little lighter, away from all the doom and gloom... Captions?

Dull, Dull, Dull... Another dull meeting at BP, Lions always had this covered, 1 decent race to speak of in Ht 12, the only other interest was could Wolves sneak a league point in Ht 15. On a positive note it was all over and done with quite quickly

Personally I go to Speedway to watch the racing and not hang about waiting while you talk to your mates . If they can get the Speedway done in 90 mins, which is beyond reasonable, there's still 45 mins for you to enjoy the rest of your night in the bar afterwards talking about the match... easy, every ones a winner

I have now, great stuff! Out of interest was Neil Vatcher or any BSPA/Team GB member involved, I think the fitness guy is part of the new GB Speedway setup isn't he?

Ok, but surely you take my point that even the crowds have dropped off alarmingly at wolves over the years. Agree that they're in the hands of the landlords, as are many others, I was just suggesting that if anybody said Mondays work at wolves nobody knows because we don't know how many they'd get on any other day of the week because they've always run on Mondays (due to the landlords)

You may well be right, time will tell, but this is something that has been said before about riders like Barker, Complin, Frampton, Allott, Auty, Brundle, Roynon, Hart, Jacobs to name but a few. Perhaps the Poultec thing will pay dividends as Speedway does seem to be a lot more about the mind than skill

Just because they ride Monday's doesn't mean it's great for them either, I've watched their crowds drop over the years attending as an away fan since the late '80's watching section after section of the stadium being closed off due to lack of numbers... makes you wonder what crowds they could get if they didn't race Monday's

Indeed not... but 3 or 4 International class riders in 24 years?

Interesting to look back on Wiki that a 3rd tier has now been in operation in BS since 1994 and reading through the history, if it is to be believed, that shortly after its introduction it was restructured so as not to be just a Youth Development League. Whichever way you look at it 24 years and 3 GP riders

Potentially on the verge of big things, how long was he at Buxton for? How long was Adam at the IOW for? Yes, good shout... and who can forget his win in Cardiff in 2007? It's just something I heard in commentary on the Swedish Speedway that got me thinking. The commentator mentioned that Robert Lambert, the next great hope for British Speedway, "learnt his trade" in Germany. This got me to thinking that how many riders that have come through the 3rd tier of British Speedway (BS) have gone on to "make it" and that now the 3rd tier of BS must have been running for something like 15 years or so (I don't know how many exactly) could it be deemed a success, from the standpoint of producing British talent?

A decent crowd I thought yesterday making for quite a decent atmosphere, a shame that probably only 40% of them had paid. Here's what one MCN show goer thought to it all, a bit harsh as I thought it was quite entertaining

I thought they all came from MotoX? Did they ride in the 3rd tier? I honestly don't know? In fact thinking of the bigger picture does anybody know how the "big stars" of today started their speedway careers? The young Poles, Vaculik, Zagar, Lindgren etc. Did they come through youth leagues or did they just have the ability and burst onto the scene? I know the Danes used to be quite proud of their youth setup, but for all the kids they had coming through they didn't even qualify for the SWC final last year

IMO it does need to start from scratch, 2 good things he has done though are sub contract out Team GB and introduce FRN... all be it on the wrong nights!

Not really a comment on Neil Vatcher as I'm sure he's doing a fine job but more of a comment on the whole "youth policy" in SGB... I was wondering how long the 3rd tier of British Speedway has been in operation and what is the highest achievement by a British rider to come through that league (and before you all clammer to write Woffy! Woffy! Woffy! I think we can all agree that he learnt his trade in Aus)

20 heats done the night before at Leicester with 4 2 rides on the trot/track grades, 2 re-runs and an interval all done in 1 and 3/4 hours

Interesting that he says he wants to ride in Poland, Sweden, Denmark... and then the UK... but good luck to the kid! Loved the drone footage, very innovative. A shame that the BSPA or no club can be bothered to throw anything like this together

Goodbye and I wish them well then

I think it's the overall package though not just the racing, can't argue with any of what you've said above, it could be seen that way, but there's other things to take into account... the temperature, all the dead time, the assault on the senses from the PA, the scoreline. I'm not particularly a Lions fan yet but am trying my best since the closure of Coventry. I suppose it was the constant dead time that didn't really keep me engaged with the match

2 hours 10 minutes for 15 minutes of Speedway... fact!