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You can dislike the guy and that's fair enough but seems silly ignore valid points he made.

Yes and he was playing up for the cameras even back then!

Showing my age now but does anyone remember the Speedway Documentary that primarily followed Havvy & Martin Dugard in the 1993 season? It finished with the World Team Cup Final at Coventry at which a strong GB team got destroyed and finished last. What was refreshing watching that was all the riders were embarrassed, held their hands up said it wasnt good enough. The team Managers bollocked the riders, they moaned the track was slick, but essentially there was no excuses. It concluded with Havvy walking out the stadium saying we're too used to loosing, we need to back the winners all the way. We need more of that. This is supposed to be a National team representing a professional sport. Poland aside, This GB team was as good as any other SWC team on their day man for man. None of the other squads were that strong. But we were doomed to fail from the start. Given an easy ride to the final and then went to Lezno all smiles and mates together but as soon as it was game time reality set in. Watch Cookie's interview pre meeting, dear in head lights springs to mind. As Nick mentioned above, we are clearly not in the same physical shape as the Pols and Mentally, light years away. Some here raving about Bomber and Stevie Worrall's performances, yes they gave it a go, but they scored 7 out of a possible 18 and 6 out of a possible 15. Thats a sad reality. Few here saying we were close to a medal. Im sorry but we were MILES behind the winners. I see nothing to be pleased about. Something needs to change drastically. We are always behind the 8 ball in these international meetings. What do we have to lose changing it all up?

This is true, is the same in most sports. Yup this is the biggest issue

To come last

Id put a decent amount he rides for us in 2018

Phil is giving us his insight not suggesting who should be GB Manager. You may not like Phil's comments or Woffinden's attitude but are you saying there are no problems with Team GB? We were lucky to go direct to the final. A great result at Kings Lynn covered over the fact that on the world stage we will never place anywhere till Woffinden is back and the rest of the team sharpen up their track craft and equipment. What is for Certain Rosco is not helping them with either. Correct

Yup I think youve nailed it. ALL of our best riders have quit at some point over the last 10 years. There's more to it then just Rosco Im sure. It's just that he is the current front man & he dealt with the Tai Situation very badly.

If they were spaced far enough apart they would sell out Manchester and still get north of 40k at Cardiff, no question. Id love round 1 in Manchester. Great way to start the series. IF (bloody big if) Cookie qualifies, maybe they would have more interested in a round in Manchester. They do have gerat tracks but it an unfair advantage to the Pols. Also there are plenty of other great tracks/ Stadiums that could be used.

Crowds have stayed pretty good tho right Rob? (Genuine question, Im only going by YouTube Clips)

Normally I would agree but this is extreme circumstances. Also, Rossiter is purely another example of Jobs for the boys anyway,

Rosco's interview about the water slide racing still leaving me in absolute disbelief. As Did giving Stevie Worrall a cuddle post tape break. As if our on track performance was embarrassing enough. And again, I'm not complaining about the effort our boys showed, but we were destroyed in that final. 27 points behind SECOND place. Not behind first, second. The Aussies, Danes and probably Latvians woulda scored more in the final, We were fortunate to have a very weak Event 1.

Again, I hear what you are saying just as it stands we are so far behind with set up and track craft we need it more than most. Plus as mentioned, Our current coach has fallen out with our #1, that is another Red Flag...

I agree with you it doesn't guarantee success but it doesn't hurt. Plus this is a slight dip in the Danes form after years of being top 3. Years, DECADES!!!

If you have the riders, then not AS necessary. When its a young/in experienced team I think its a great help. The Danes had so many good riders when they won all they needed was someone to keep it Harmonious. But some educated/experienced input never a bad thing no matter how good you are.

Another illustration of what a sht show it is right now...

Spot on Phil. I saw the interview with Cook post practice/pre meeting he looked a nervous wreck - after being on top of the world all week post Event 1. It's tremendously frustrating to see how far behind we ALWAYS are in these meetings. Even at home last year it took Cook and King 3 rides each till they were capable of winning a race (or even doing better than 3rd) I do not for one second think the Latvians, Russians etc are better than us man for man but somehow we cannot compete at this level with them. Russia beat us to 3rd with neither Laguta & Emil scoring 8-10 points less then we all though he would on his home track. The SWC team should be be separate to the BSPA. I like the way the Americans do it. Lance King whos been there done it at the helm & then people like Steve Evans concentrating on the organization etc. We need a managerial set up similar IMO Not a jolly fun to interview manager with a lot of passion but no clue what its like to ride at this level. What a waste to Have Havvy Loram Louis Tatum Screen not being used.

Absolutely correct from top to bottom sir

Great post, speaking a lot of sense

Spot on

Not sure what that means but if I've in someway contradicted myself oops. Apologies. Anyway I happen to be sat in hospital with a lot of time on my hands otherwise I'd have given up trying to argue my point. I just want the GB team to do better. I shouldn't have bothered lol. I'll not bother in future.

No sadder than being happy my team come stone bonker last big boy. I think you'll see the majority of that post is about the GB not Tai anyway. Nice spelling too.

Because you talk sense. Nothing wrong wanting what's best for you.

Well I'm rich and successful too if that's what u mean (I'm also on the wind up before people get upset) But if a plonka is that successful I'll take being one. Anyway I'll stick to my original point, I'm more upset with the performance tonight . And that's what should be the issue.

He didn't diss them