Alan_Jones Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Do you know if they have changed? Are you privy to them? No. Early on, all the indications were that the problem was caused by a failure to adhere to rules that had been in place for some 10-15 years. Since then, UKVI's decisions seem to back up that theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I think the Manzares one is the interesting one and the one we're all waiting for. If it really is as Black and White as top 4 in a state championship or an average of 7 or above, then he won't get a visa, simple. If he does get a Visa, then it's obviously not as Black and White as some on here are suggesting and there's a little more to it that we're not privy to. Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Maybe he is coming back on a 7? And a team change may be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Maybe he is coming back on a 7? And a team change may be needed.I dont think that is an option. He is either granted a visa or not. If he is he will be on his 6.02. If not he cant get round the rules by taking a higher average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Wasn't Manzares given a 3 year visa at the start of 2014 so maybe that helps? *clutching at another straw* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 No. Early on, all the indications were that the problem was caused by a failure to adhere to rules that had been in place for some 10-15 years. Since then, UKVI's decisions seem to back up that theory.So you dont know for sure albeit you are correctly applying the only criteria currently in the public domain.Hope for Gino yet then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Wasn't Manzares given a 3 year visa at the start of 2014 so maybe that helps? *clutching at another straw* Not if it was issued on a false premise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Wasn't Manzares given a 3 year visa at the start of 2014 so maybe that helps? *clutching at another straw* All visas were revoked and every rider has had to, or will have to, reapply for them. This includes all riders who had a multi year work permit too - Troy Batchelor has already confirmed he had a multi year work permit but needs to reapply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 My point was would having a 3 year visa help Manzares gain a new visa as he still has his 2nd and 3rd year "left"? Where as Poole and Campton were at the end of their "time" and have not met a 7 point ave in any of their years in the UK..... Tungate had a 3 year visa too but has to reapply, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I wish someone would come on here and tell us how the hell its possible for gino to come back, cos so far no one can find a concrete reason why he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king junior Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I wish someone would come on here and tell us how the hell its possible for gino to come back, cos so far no one can find a concrete reason why he can. Because there isn't. If the rules are what they are, then Gino doesn't meet the requirement. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Exactly. Maybe Mr bacon needs to do some digging with Mr Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I wish someone would come on here and tell us how the hell its possible for gino to come back, cos so far no one can find a concrete reason why he can. Don't worry we will find out at p & p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barncooseboy Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I believe Gino won the Maryland state championship which is being run next weekend or maybe the Ohio State Championship being run next Monday Only one entrant in each Gino!! Edited February 17, 2015 by barncooseboy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Don't worry we will find out at p & p does that mean the answers in the post and he will be sent packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 My point was would having a 3 year visa help Manzares gain a new visa as he still has his 2nd and 3rd year "left"? Where as Poole and Campton were at the end of their "time" and have not met a 7 point ave in any of their years in the UK..... Tungate had a 3 year visa too but has to reapply, campton was into the 2nd year of his 2yr visa, but still got bombed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) My point was would having a 3 year visa help Manzares gain a new visa as he still has his 2nd and 3rd year "left"? Where as Poole and Campton were at the end of their "time" and have not met a 7 point ave in any of their years in the UK..... Tungate had a 3 year visa too but has to reapply, it has been said that all visas were torn up regardless of time left on them. start again. Edited February 17, 2015 by brewer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Think Manzares is unlikely to get a visa, but really hope I am proved wrong, because he is both talented & entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 it has been said that all visas were torn up regardless of time left on them. start again. So if they have to start again, the previous ave would have to be over 7, if not top 4 in state championships. When are the state championships in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 So if they have to start again, the previous ave would have to be over 7, if not top 4 in state championships. When are the state championships in the US? I think someone needs to have a quick word with Steve Evans to see if he can quickly arrange a California State Championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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