LagutaRacingFan Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, Flappy said: To clarify I said Ben Cook isn't what we need now if it's our final season, we're essentially developing an Aussie for someone else. He's done fine but a really free scoring reserve he's not yet. Your obsession with Ben Cook is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, BassoRacingFan said: Your obsession with Ben Cook is sad. Obsession Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Ben Cook over Craig Cook any day of the week, if that change was made then they most certainly have lost the plot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 10 hours ago, TTT said: Agree, Saw some Panthers fans actually make the journey to the NSS tonight and put up a Panthers flag on the BSN stream. I was like.....Why on earth would anyone make that journey just to see a mauling. It's the difference between being a "supporter" and a fan(atic)... which one are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Ok Craig Cook for Hans Andersen then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, iainb said: It's the difference between being a "supporter" and a fan(atic)... which one are you? Flip flop between the two as it stands. I've got no interest in giving Buster another penny of my money but I'll gladly turn up every week if Tomalin owned the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) This team is just as competitive as KL, Leicester and Wolves and it would resolve all of our current team issues. 1. Matej Zagar 2. Craig Cook 3. Rohan Tungate 4. Ben Basso 5. Niels-Kristian Iversen 6. Ben Cook 7. Jordan Jenkins (RS) Edited April 25, 2023 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Purplepanthernotred said: Still essentially punishing one of the few that’s put in some steady performances. And too your point, Craig cook isn’t a free scoring rider, who knows what he’s capable of from one meeting too the next, don’t need another unpredictable rider in a team full of unpredictable riders Exactly 15 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: Ben Cook over Craig Cook any day of the week, if that change was made then they most certainly have lost the plot Exactly #2! 14 minutes ago, Flappy said: Ok Craig Cook for Hans Andersen then Why anyone wants him in their team is beyond me. Will just cause more issues imo. Apparently Glasgow has more team spirit this year and look Craig Cook isn't there. Hmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 I'd rather a rider win races tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Flappy said: I'd rather a rider win races tbh Same. I get the reliability issue, but currently Ben Cook is nowhere near Craig Cook’s level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, TTT said: Flip flop between the two as it stands. I've got no interest in giving Buster another penny of my money but I'll gladly turn up every week if Tomalin owned the club. If you put as much energy into starting a campaign to keep your club open as you are into calling for your club to close immediately just because you're not winning you may stand a chance of continuing into the future. Having had 3 of the clubs I supported close over the years, I wouldn't wish it on any one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Same. I get the reliability issue, but currently Ben Cook is nowhere near Craig Cook’s level. And how many meeting of his have you watched to come to this viewpoint. Champ level he is only 2 points behind atm. Bet it is closer come end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, iainb said: It's the difference between being a "supporter" and a fan(atic)... which one are you? He’s neither, just a PITA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 hours ago, TTT said: Myself and @Flappy are really trying to force change by being as vocal as we possibly can at this stage but we need a whole lot more fans to come on board tbh. It's and uphill battle to save the club but it's better to go down trying rather than staying silent and watch ingeverything get taken away imo. It's beyond dreadful and I think a big rift is brewing on the management side of things and it's going to fall apart just like our team, Could possibly see Tomalin walking with Rob Lyon if this continues imo. On the BSF. LP30, m "The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or greater size in a suitable on or off-site location." - that's the bit that you need to focus on - AEPG and PCC need to be held accountable for that local plan provision. If you want fans to do something then get them to contact their councillor and MP with that request, that's not too difficult or taxing. It's the club that's being silent and you'd hope that they are working behind the scenes on this? Who is actually up for the fight and willing to stick with this long term? Can't see the owner being up for it and apart from that we're seemingly rudderless. AEPG having issues and their development slows, giving us a stay of execution for 2 or 3 seasons at the EoES is the only hope IMO. It'll be important that someone keeps an eye on the speedway infrastructure at the end of August to ensure that AEPG don't damage any of it. They can't do that without meeting LP30. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: And how many meeting of his have you watched to come to this viewpoint. Champ level he is only 2 points behind atm. Bet it is closer come end of the season. You don’t have to watch ANY meetings to come to that conclusion, the stats speak for themselves. Currently, Ben Cook isn’t anywhere near Craig Cook that’s a simple fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: You don’t have to watch ANY meetings to come to that conclusion, the stats speak for themselves. Currently, Ben Cook isn’t anywhere near Craig Cook that’s a simple fact. Without doubt. I'm not calling for him to be first out the door there's many others that need to go but if there's a chance of getting say Craig Cook at reserve I'd do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: Same. I get the reliability issue, but currently Ben Cook is nowhere near Craig Cook’s level. Depends what Craig cook turns up on the night tho, not worth the risk atm I’m afraid, if we had a stronger consistent team then I’d get it more but at current it would be a waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepanthernotred Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 hours ago, TTT said: Myself and @Flappy are really trying to force change by being as vocal as we possibly can at this stage but we need a whole lot more fans to come on board tbh. It's and uphill battle to save the club but it's better to go down trying rather than staying silent and watch ingeverything get taken away imo. It's beyond dreadful and I think a big rift is brewing on the management side of things and it's going to fall apart just like our team, Could possibly see Tomalin walking with Rob Lyon if this continues imo. The problem that you’ve got is some fans and I use the word some specifically because it’s not all before I get shouted down by anyone, are blinded by what’s going on and are happy too ‘just have a club to support’ which yes I get but there’s no realism in that, that’s like sending kids out on a pitch against United or something like that, essentially a hammering takes place and it’s not worth the money and it’s VERY difficult to get behind and take positives from. I’m glad we still have a club to support but serious questions should be asked over the point of it all when said owner knows he’s tracking a weak team to prop up the table. Just don’t understand it personally. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Purplepanthernotred said: Depends what Craig cook turns up on the night tho, not worth the risk atm I’m afraid, if we had a stronger consistent team then I’d get it more but at current it would be a waste of time I get that, hopefully he’s in a better place currently. But when options are sparse, I personally would sign him and IF things take a turn for the worse and he goes awol, deal with that if and when it happened. The bloke is a 9 pointer in the Championship and has started this season very well. He’s a sub 5 in the Premiership and in my opinion is excellent value for that. I’d take him as a short term replacement for Riss at Ipswich without any hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, TTT said: This team is just as competitive as KL, Leicester and Wolves and it would resolve all of our current team issues. 1. Matej Zagar 2. Craig Cook 3. Rohan Tungate 4. Ben Basso 5. Niels-Kristian Iversen 6. Ben Cook 7. Jordan Jenkins (RS) You're a funny guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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