Peterborough Panthers 2023

[Crump99]

On 5/7/2024 at 7:27 PM, OldNutter said:

There is also currently a fair bit of positive press about the new British season and the increase in foreign riders wanting to ride over here in the prime league needs to be kept in play to counter those doom and gloom comments made by AEPG about speedway in this country going downhill.  It will all help our case if the planing inquiry is called after the council and AEPG cannot agree on the applications.

As you put in your objection, they don't get speedway or where it sits nationally or locally and probably got all of their information from Buster which is why they suggested Kings Lynn as an alternative venue. He said, I'll get you out LP30 l: "The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature of the facility and its associated catchment area?"

Buster may have said to them that the Norfolk Arena is the equal of the EoES in terms of stadium, track and action provided! And Butterfield bought that and even put it in one of his alleged flagship key reports

Edited May 9, 2024 by Crump99

[OldNutter]

On 5/8/2024 at 5:34 PM, Crump99 said:

The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature of the facility and its associated catchment area?"

The point Butterfield missed (either intentially, ignoranty or both?) is that following a professional sport team is tribal in nature. In this case, it is like saying that if Old Trafford closed, Man U fans could travel to Anfield and watch Liverpool matches - it's football after all isn't it? - wouldn't happen in that case any more than saying Peterborough and Kings Lynn are "in reasonable proximity"  LP30 is about providing a facility within reasonable distance of Peterborough for the Panthers FANS to watch their team race for honour and league points rather than travel the better part of another hour  just to see independent riders racing one another purely for a few quid.

[Crump99]

17 hours ago, OldNutter said:

The point Butterfield missed (either intentionally, ignorantly or both?) is that following a professional sport team is tribal in nature. In this case, it is like saying that if Old Trafford closed, Man U fans could travel to Anfield and watch Liverpool matches - it's football after all isn't it? - wouldn't happen in that case any more than saying Peterborough and Kings Lynn are "in reasonable proximity"  LP30 is about providing a facility within reasonable distance of Peterborough for the Panthers FANS to watch their team race for honour and league points rather than travel the better part of another hour  just to see independent riders racing one another purely for a few quid.

It was /is certainly ignorance. In terms of product though, at least historically Man U & Liverpool are of the same standing although the Anfield mob are currently in the ascendency and have been for a few years now.. I prefer the Man U to Burnley analogy. Yes it's football but not in anyway of equal worth. Anyone who thinks that the product provided by the unique facility at the EoES can be matched by the Norfolk Arena is ill-informed and delusional, and he clearly is!

Also strange that an alleged green council, keen on reducing car usage and improving the fitness and wellbeing of people wants them to hit the roads for polluting car journeys. If they buy the AEPG guff that is?

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

19 hours ago, OldNutter said:

The point Butterfield missed (either intentially, ignoranty or both?) is that following a professional sport team is tribal in nature. 

To be fair the bspl/a have missed this point for the last 25 years too

Edited May 10, 2024 by THE DEAN MACHINE

[Crump99]

Peterborough Panthers return to Alwalton....for one night only

Peterborough Panthers are on their way back to their spiritual home at Alwalton.

And fans, starved of seeing their speedway team in live action, have the chance to relive one of the biggest trophy celebrations in the club’s long history. A specially edited film of the famous ‘Dad’s Army’ team being crowned top-flight league champions after their two-leg Grand Final victory against Belle Vue in 2021 will be premiered at a special ‘Speedway Returns to Alwalton’ night later this month. It’s a great opportunity for Panthers fans to meet up again and also hopefully there will be members of the consortium fighting to keep the sport alive in Peterborough present who will possibly be able to update everyone on what has been happening and what is planned for the future.”

The team has been booted off their East of England Arena base as developers planned for a multi-use leisure village and 1,500 homes (only up to 650 of which are agreed in the Peterborough Local Plan), but included no provision for Speedway. There will not be Peterborough team racing competitively in 2024. (And there will be no planning agreement or building either!)

The ‘Dad’s Army’ event has been organised by Panthers Speedway Supporters’ Club in their effort to keep fans involved and fully up to date about what they are doing? What better way of complementing that than looking back at that stunning 2021 season?

The Panthers team of Ulrich Ostergaard, Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls, Bjarne Pedersen, Hans Andersen, Michael Palm Toft and Jordan Palin began the season as rank outsiders for the title. They were dubbed ‘Dad’s Army’ because of the average age of the squad.

Peterborough Panthers are still the only professional Peterborough sports team to win the league at the highest level.

The event is at the Colonel Dane Memorial Hall in Church Street, Alwalton – a mile or so from speedway’s home for more than 50 years – at 7.30pm on Friday, May 31.Tickets (£3 for members, £4 for non-members and under 15s free) are by e-mail from ppssc2016@yahoo.com.

Full text and article from peterboroughtoday May 13 2024

 

[Mick Bratley]

1 hour ago, Crump99 said:

Peterborough Panthers return to Alwalton....for one night only

Peterborough Panthers are on their way back to their spiritual home at Alwalton.

And fans, starved of seeing their speedway team in live action, have the chance to relive one of the biggest trophy celebrations in the club’s long history. A specially edited film of the famous ‘Dad’s Army’ team being crowned top-flight league champions after their two-leg Grand Final victory against Belle Vue in 2021 will be premiered at a special ‘Speedway Returns to Alwalton’ night later this month. It’s a great opportunity for Panthers fans to meet up again and also hopefully there will be members of the consortium fighting to keep the sport alive in Peterborough present who will possibly be able to update everyone on what has been happening and what is planned for the future.”

The team has been booted off their East of England Arena base as developers planned for a multi-use leisure village and 1,500 homes (only up to 650 of which are agreed in the Peterborough Local Plan), but included no provision for Speedway. There will not be Peterborough team racing competitively in 2024. (And there will be no planning agreement or building either!)

 

 

The ‘Dad’s Army’ event has been organised by Panthers Speedway Supporters’ Club in their effort to keep fans involved and fully up to date about what they are doing? What better way of complementing that than looking back at that stunning 2021 season?

The Panthers team of Ulrich Ostergaard, Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls, Bjarne Pedersen, Hans Andersen, Michael Palm Toft and Jordan Palin began the season as rank outsiders for the title. They were dubbed ‘Dad’s Army’ because of the average age of the squad.

Peterborough Panthers are still the only professional Peterborough sports team to win the league at the highest level.

The event is at the Colonel Dane Memorial Hall in Church Street, Alwalton – a mile or so from speedway’s home for more than 50 years – at 7.30pm on Friday, May 31.Tickets (£3 for members, £4 for non-members and under 15s free) are by e-mail from ppssc2016@yahoo.com.

Full text and article from peterboroughtoday May 13 2024

 

Limited seats left.

[Crump99]

22 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

Limited seats left.

Any truth in the rumour that for a truly authentic feel of 2021, social distancing will be in operation and the still ineffective face masks will be on sale at the door

[Mick Bratley]

25 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

Any truth in the rumour that for a truly authentic feel of 2021, social distancing will be in operation and the still ineffective face masks will be on sale at the door

None. See you there?

[TTT]

Just as well we aren't running under Buster's ownership this year.

I dread to think what would've happened considering the current state KL are in.

[Crump99]

On 5/16/2024 at 11:51 AM, Mick Bratley said:

None. See you there?

Unless you can restore my dog from his ashes and recreate those barmy summer nights at Ferry Meadows (with the sound of the bikes a short distance away) then sadly I have nothing to relive. I never attended a meeting in 2021.

[Bald Bloke]

12 hours ago, TTT said:

Just as well we aren't running under Buster's ownership this year.

I dread to think what would've happened considering the current state KL are in.

Well he put you before Lynn, last season... He signed you a few good riders, after CJ bailed, and left you in the crap....Giving you a good end to the season, putting he's " Beloved Lynn" in the wooden spoon position !!

Edited May 19, 2024 by Bald Bloke

[Bagpuss]

Just caught up with what Butterfield has recently said.....what an absolute piece of work he is.

[TTT]

6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Well he put you before Lynn, last season... He signed you a few good riders, after CJ bailed, and left you in the crap....Giving you a good end to the season, putting he's " Beloved Lynn" in the wooden spoon position !!

Something's clearly up with Buster this year, He's just refusing to run meetings and if it's down to finances then he wouldn't have been able to keep either club on track imo.

My conspiracy theory is that Brady took him to court and won to a point where Buster's on the brink financially.

After all Brady did hold that sign up at the Darts.

[Racin Jason 72]

I would have thought it isn’t the court case but possibly he spent his budget on getting a proper number one and the rest of the team isn’t performing which is partly down to lack of meetings which is partly bluster’s fault. 
it’s more difficult to get guests as sometimes only one other team isn’t riding on the same night. 
add the problem of him falling out with several other riders and not being prepared to pay the going rate for heat leaders. All this makes thinks more difficult.  
his stubbornness is costing him dearly. 

[Bald Bloke]

7 hours ago, TTT said:

Something's clearly up with Buster this year, He's just refusing to run meetings and if it's down to finances then he wouldn't have been able to keep either club on track imo.

My conspiracy theory is that Brady took him to court and won to a point where Buster's on the brink financially.

After all Brady did hold that sign up at the Darts.

He thought he had as good as sold PB, and Lynn's promotion at the start of last season, and that didn't happen. He had to step in at both clubs last season to keep them running. He continued with Lynn this season, when he wanted to be off enjoying his retirement fund with Cheryl. Not digging into it to run speedway. 

Taken from another thread....

"My mate went to stock cars at Lynn yesterday and apparently Buster announced that there won't be speedway at Lynn after this season"

[TTT]

1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

He thought he had as good as sold PB, and Lynn's promotion at the start of last season, and that didn't happen. He had to step in at both clubs last season to keep them running. He continued with Lynn this season, when he wanted to be off enjoying his retirement fund with Cheryl. Not digging into it to run speedway. 

Taken from another thread....

"My mate went to stock cars at Lynn yesterday and apparently Buster announced that there won't be speedway at Lynn after this season"

He's only got himself to blame.

His yearly strop. 

[Byker Biker]

52 minutes ago, TTT said:

He's only got himself to blame.

His yearly strop. 

And your hourly dig at him, you've made your point every day for the last 6 - 12 months don't you think it's time to give the rest of us a break?

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

He's only got himself to blame.

His yearly strop. 

What for Alex pulling out when he did, for personal reasons? He thought Lynn was sorted.

 

[Crump99]

20 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Well he put you before Lynn, last season... He signed you a few good riders, after CJ bailed, and left you in the crap....Giving you a good end to the season, putting he's " Beloved Lynn" in the wooden spoon position !! 

CJ bailed and left us in the crap? Not sure about that?

Who signed and paid for them is open to question I'd say? Chapman would have done a cost/benefit analysis for his input. He would know that Panthers already healthy support would be boosted by sensible investment. Would the same investment have reaped the same reward at Lynn?

[Crump99]

17 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Just caught up with what Butterfield has recently said.....what an absolute piece of work he is.

Yup. It's getting a bit nasty now and he's misjudged a situation that he could have handled so much better and negotiated an amicable split, but he's just a bully who thinks that what he says goes without question. It only takes half a dozen people (some local which he isn't) with strong views and local knowledge to cause problems and delay for AEPG and get something significant for Peterborough Speedway from the mess that Butterfield and Co have created.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Crump99