2025 GP line up/wildcards

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/1/2024 at 1:58 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

Boris Johnson was born in America, would you say he was American or British?

Artem is Polish. He has been nominated for the award of best Polish rider in the Ekstraliga.

 

...best Polish rider in Ekstraliga? This statement is not correect, unless you mean Best EkstraLiga rider with the Polish licence.

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/4/2024 at 11:03 PM, crescent girl said:

There are a few things beyond the obvious keeping the Russians sidelined.

If they are now to be considered "Polish" then it is up the PZM to nominate them to contest the GPs -- presumably through next season's GP Challenge system.        But obviously, there is a restriction on the nominations from any one governing body.    That will mean they take the place of two "real Poles" in the system, which might not go down too well with the Polish public, who don't generally like Russia as a neighbour, and would feel aggrieved if (say) Magic and Dudek were dropped by the PZM to allow Emil and Laguta into the qualifiers......

Another route would be via the European Championship, albeit that only one could win it, and enter the GPs that way.   

But again, FIM Europe (a different organisation from the FIM in many ways) will have restrictions of their own.......

In short, I don't see either of the Russians getting back into the GP system in the forseeable future.  Unless the war is ended, of course.

Over to you, Mr Putin!

 

Nice one !

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/7/2024 at 4:23 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

The PZM should set-up their own GP series, consisting of the top 16 riders in the Polish Ekstraliga averages.

 

 

 

 

PZM is already doing this...it is called The International EkstraLiga Individual Championships

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/7/2024 at 6:46 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

Utter nonsense.

Artem is top of the Polish league averages.

Championships titles are not awarded to the top rider in any league's averages. 

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/8/2024 at 12:49 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

 

For example, Jack Holder and Lindgren wouldn't choose the GP series over Lublin.

 

I wonder why ?

[PolskiZuzel]

On 10/9/2024 at 10:27 AM, f-s-p said:

. Has bugger all to do with FIM or FIM Europe meetings where they are still MFR.

Well said !

[JoeW436]

Before booking flights what are the prospects of getting tickets to the GP’s at Wrocław and Riga?

[LagutaRacingFan]

Poland are demanding that next year's wild-card slot is replaced by a permanent Polish rider.

The FIM are in big trouble if they don't accept this.

Poland are threatening to take the Warsaw GP off the calendar.

The PZM are not messing about. 

Edited October 14, 2024 by LagutaRacingFan

[therefused]

19 hours ago, JoeW436 said:

Before booking flights what are the prospects of getting tickets to the GP’s at Wrocław and Riga?

youll be fine

[f-s-p]

6 hours ago, LagutaRacingFan said:

Poland are demanding that next year's wild-card slot is replaced by a permanent Polish rider.

The FIM are in big trouble if they don't accept this.

Poland are threatening to take the Warsaw GP off the calendar.

The PZM are not messing about. 

I asked you a question a day or two ago. You don't have to answer anymore. We all know.

[Monarchs2468]

On 10/13/2024 at 7:12 PM, JoeW436 said:

Before booking flights what are the prospects of getting tickets to the GP’s at Wrocław and Riga?

Riga tickets are no trouble at all.

Wroclaw tickets, for the main stand, sell very quickly (days, not hours). The back-straight take a bit longer and the standing tickets (corners) are last to go. But don't hang about. It's a lovely city, great stadium and you'll hopefully see a cracking meeting. Enjoy.

[TheReturn]

On 10/1/2024 at 12:58 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

Boris Johnson was born in America, would you say he was American or British?

 

Personally I would say he is a self-serving **** (word begins with a C) regardless of nationality, but that's perhaps a topic for another day. 

[TigerIain]

On 10/1/2024 at 12:58 PM, LagutaRacingFan said:

Boris Johnson was born in America, would you say he was American or British?

Artem is Polish. He has been nominated for the award of best Polish rider in the Ekstraliga.

 

Boris previously said that he was American by accident of birth (his mother was on holiday there when he was born). He had dual nationality. However Boris went through a process the Americans have where he formally renounced his American nationality. He therefore is legally British, and not American. It's a non reversible process, so if he wanted to behind an American citizen again he would have to go through the same process as any other Brit. So he is in a different situation.

[TigerIain]

Michelsen and Doyle were obvious choices given how their season was going pre injury.

Were Huckenbeck and Kvech given the other 2 as a second chance to reach the top 6 because they have only been in for 1 year? It's not unheard of for that to happen. 

Certainly Madsen was unlucky to miss out. 

As for the Poles, with Artem and Emil on Polish licences but not being put forward. You then have the next best 3 Poles as Janowski, Dudek and Kolodziej who have all had previous wild cards and have all at times seriously under performed,  so I would expect all 3 are only getting back in the hard way. With 2 Poles in the series and the next best 5 discounted you are then talking about giving a wild card to the 8th best Pole (Ignoring the Polish/ Russian debate) as opposed to the top rider from another country. Huckenbeck, Kvech and Woźniak all finished on similar-ish points totals. Add in that Woźniak had a terrible second half to the 2024 series (9 points over the last 5 rounds) and picking Huckenbeck and Kvech is more understandable

[eric i]

 

On 9/22/2024 at 12:54 PM, eric i said:

I would be surprised if they went to Manchester and Cardiff, probably wouldn't make financial sense. 

On 9/28/2024 at 8:06 AM, racers and royals said:

Polish website Sportowefakty have also said Manchester and Cardiff in 2025( as i said lol) so you are definitely in for a surprise this afternoon !

On 9/28/2024 at 11:47 AM, eric i said:

I am surprised, there has been a lot of talk about the viability of the Cardiff GP. Some fans won't pay to watch 2 gps, I think this will be the last Cardiff GP. 

 

Well I can't say I am surprised, leaving Cardiff superficially on the calendar was probably to gain sponsorship, it was always their intention to cancel it.

[Fullmax]

Interesting to see 2 Russian boxers Berbatov and Bivol  fighting each other in the Main Event in Saudi Arabia on Saturday night . Seemingly like the tennis,  boxing  doesn't regard the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a justification for banning athletes from their sports.

Both those  sports have coverage that only Speedway could dream of in the UK and I've never heard of any criticism of their participation in both sports in our press. 

What then is the justification for Sayfutdinov and Lagutas continuing absence in World Championship events? 

[AceBelle]

55 minutes ago, Fullmax said:

Interesting to see 2 Russian boxers Berbatov and Bivol  fighting each other in the Main Event in Saudi Arabia on Saturday night . Seemingly like the tennis,  boxing  doesn't regard the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a justification for banning athletes from their sports.

Both those  sports have coverage that only Speedway could dream of in the UK and I've never heard of any criticism of their participation in both sports in our press. 

What then is the justification for Sayfutdinov and Lagutas continuing absence in World Championship events? 

Fair comment I agree with you 👍 

[BluPanther]

1 hour ago, Fullmax said:

Interesting to see 2 Russian boxers Berbatov and Bivol  fighting each other in the Main Event in Saudi Arabia on Saturday night . Seemingly like the tennis,  boxing  doesn't regard the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a justification for banning athletes from their sports.

Both those  sports have coverage that only Speedway could dream of in the UK and I've never heard of any criticism of their participation in both sports in our press. 

What then is the justification for Sayfutdinov and Lagutas continuing absence in World Championship events? 

Beterbiev... 😉

[Hackett]

Saw this in the speedway star this week touching on the SGP earnings 9The Voice's Charles Mckay collated the earnings - Not seen this mentioned elsewhere on the forum} - The finances are why the PZM are looking to threaten the SGP/FIM about Polish riders and flex there financial muscle and pulling power of Ekstraliga . 

In the course of winning his fifth World Championship Zmarzlik earned 132,000 euros in prize money. from the SGP Rights Holders Warner Bros Discovery Sports. 

Considering the financial commitment to break into the Elite Top Tier of listed riders in the SGP - bikes, engines, kevlars, helmets. Mechanics + Pit Crew. Physiotherapists etc ...  

Not forgetting the simple logistics of getting to SGP - transport costs , flights and/or diesel, hotels, food. Mechanics. 

Since 2022 the net prize money and championship points per SGP have remained the same. GP riders have to cover all riders costs because the rights holders don't pay expenses unless the GP is outside of Europe. FIM/SGP rules states that riders hotels and travel expenses are included in the prize money. 

 

20pts - 16,500

18pts - 12,500  

16pts - 10,000 

14 pts - 9000 

12pts - 7750  

11pts - 7750 

10pts - 7250 

9pts - 7250 

8pts - 6500 

7pts - 6250

6pts - 6000

5pts - 5750

4pts - 5500 

3pts - 5250 

2pts - 5000 

1pt - 4750 

0pts - 1000 

all prize money is in euros. 

The top three in the standings - Zmarzlik, Lambert and Lindgren are the only riders that took over 100,000 euros over the course of the season in prize money. 

 

 

 

[topaz325]

Crazy when darts world champion picked up £500k , its all about tv revenue  and large sponsors in reality.