mikebv Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, IainB said: I do get your point... but for a sport that "was" trying to break into new territories having world champions at junior and senior level who don't really have a great grasp of the English language is not great for marketing. Brilliant for Poland, not so much the rest of the planet. I'm afraid that trying to sell a GP in the US or Aussie with "me score big points" doesn't really cut it. Rule Britannia! Britannia waves the rules! 🇬🇧 They didn't get the cut through with Hans, Trick, Crumpy, Pedersen, and Hancock... All English speakers... And then you had Havvy, Loram and Woffy... None of them crossed over to make the mainstream take any interest... And, most importantly, it isn't Poland's responsibility to make UK and World Speedway prosper... That is down to those who take responsibility to be the custodians of the sport.. The bottom line is... They are just not very good at holding that position.. Edited July 4 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 (edited) 20 minutes ago, mikebv said: They didn't get the cut through with Hans, Trick, Crumpy, Pedersen, and Hancock... All English speakers... And then you had Havvy, Lorsm and Woffy... None of them crossed over to make the mainstream take any interest... And, most importantly, it isn't Poland's responsibility to make UK Speedway prosper... That is down to those who take responsibility to be the custodians of the sport.. The bottom line is... They are just not very good at holding that position.. I was thinking more of World Speedway than British Speedway, although British Speedway would benefit from a higher profile if World Speedway were more successful. The SGP series is at its lowest ebb pretty much since its inception... Havvy & Woffy English speakers? Lol, they both did have mainstream cut through though as did Nielsen, Crumpy and Hancock all of whom I've seen on non Speedway specific media. I dare say that if Nicki and Trick had been champions in the current social media age we'd have heard a lot more from them. Totally agree with your last couple of sentences. Edited July 4 by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 I’d say English / Australian riders should try and learn Polish as that is where they decide to go and make big money 😅 English people feel so entitled in life but to be fair, we as a nation are pretty dumbed down expecting everyone else to speak English. We are a lazy country and now it’s showing how poor our economy is and how better other countries are, including Poland. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 8 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said: I’d say English / Australian riders should try and learn Polish as that is where they decide to go and make big money 😅 English people feel so entitled in life but to be fair, we as a nation are pretty dumbed down expecting everyone else to speak English. We are a lazy country and now it’s showing how poor our economy is and how better other countries are, including Poland. It's not an English entitlement thing, it's really not. I do agree that riders riding in Poland should try and learn the language, I think Robert Lambert has hasn't he? Isn't his Mrs Polish though? But like it or not English is the international language in the western world, there can't be many global sports where all the participants don't have a decent grasp of English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 22 minutes ago, IainB said: It's not an English entitlement thing, it's really not. I do agree that riders riding in Poland should try and learn the language, I think Robert Lambert has hasn't he? Isn't his Mrs Polish though? But like it or not English is the international language in the western world, there can't be many global sports where all the participants don't have a decent grasp of English. I get what you are saying, and that’s true about lambert although his polish is very very basic, but at least he trying so you can’t knock him. I would say though, England ‘invented football’ yet Brazil were the best for a long time and that 2002 dream team of Ronaldinho / Ronaldo / rivaldo / Carlos, they never spoke a word of English at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonalResponsibility Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 I don't like to say that was one of the dullest meetings I've seen for a long time...but it was, really, wasn't it? I don't know if it's just me, but this fascination that WBD have with absolutely rattling through meetings just does nothing for entertainment. They seem to have decided that, because fans wanted slicker meetings, they'd just bang out every 4 heats at the speed of light. There's a balance between endlessly dragging a meeting out and where we're at now. What's the rush? The speedway is the attraction, where we all hurrying off to? I don't think it helps that we don't really get much connection to the riders. I used to love U21 racing. Seeing the next generation coming through. Now, it feels like we just watch a collection of riders appear in a handful of heats and that's it. Barely any interviews or anything else. Maybe it's because they don't ride in GB much these days, so we don't get to know them? All in all, bit crap IMO. Hopefully the GP is better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanoXtra Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 6 hours ago, PersonalResponsibility said: I don't like to say that was one of the dullest meetings I've seen for a long time...but it was, really, wasn't it? I don't know if it's just me, but this fascination that WBD have with absolutely rattling through meetings just does nothing for entertainment. They seem to have decided that, because fans wanted slicker meetings, they'd just bang out every 4 heats at the speed of light. There's a balance between endlessly dragging a meeting out and where we're at now. What's the rush? The speedway is the attraction, where we all hurrying off to? I don't think it helps that we don't really get much connection to the riders. I used to love U21 racing. Seeing the next generation coming through. Now, it feels like we just watch a collection of riders appear in a handful of heats and that's it. Barely any interviews or anything else. Maybe it's because they don't ride in GB much these days, so we don't get to know them? All in all, bit crap IMO. Hopefully the GP is better. I do wonder if Chris Louis ever thinks about giving some a go at Ipswich now and then, I’m slightly disappointed Ipswich doesn’t do anything for the next generation be it junior league level or hold meetings for them. I guess a lot of these juniors in SGP2 ride in Ekstraliga and mainly Exstraliga under 24 so they should be good enough to try the British tracks but probably due to money prefer to go to Sweden or Denmark for travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskiZuzel Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 20 hours ago, mikebv said: Would Malkiewicz qualify as a Rising Star GB rider? Born in Oxford.... Not in Oxford...but in HUNTINGTON (2007) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 A dreadfully boring meeting. can’t remember the last time I saw a meeting with very little action or passing in. Is Blodorn riding on Sunday I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 9 Author Report Share Posted July 9 Nikita Kaulins is the Riga wildcard reserves are Damirs Filimonovs and Artjoms Juhno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 16 Author Report Share Posted July 16 As always with Latvian events there is bound to be confusion with the TV companies on start time. The Riga SGP 2 meeting starts at 3pm UK time( 5 pm local). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted yesterday at 11:26 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:26 AM On 7/16/2025 at 7:46 AM, racers and royals said: As always with Latvian events there is bound to be confusion with the TV companies on start time. The Riga SGP 2 meeting starts at 3pm UK time( 5 pm local). Pleased to say that Discovery + have time correct and programme starts at 2.55pm UK time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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