Belle Vue ‘Aces’ vs King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ - Monday 23rd June 2025

[bellevueace]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Got to feel sorry for Kings Lynn without their best rider they would be romping this …. Belle Vue strongest top 2 in the league and a third heat leader that flies at home ….. 

Blordon is the worst number two in the league and the reserves are poor …. If Belle Vue want to win the league this season they have to be ruthless 

With Kvech Stars would have been comfy winners, Boldorn has not improved Cook not good enough and the worst reserves, this team if qualifying for the play off doesnt get past the semis in my opinion.

[SuperStarsFan91]

The only reason I can think of as to why Rowe didn’t take Harrison’s place in heat 14 is that he didn’t want to ride 5 rides, as he hasn’t long come back from injury… but if that was the case then we shouldn’t have asked him to guest/he shouldn’t have accepted 🤷🏻‍♂️

[szkocjasid]

53 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

It absolutely wouldn't have been a 'blunder', there will be a good reason. Would have made no difference to the result tonight anyway.

 

43 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said:

100%, some people's maths isn’t strong clearly. Only a 5-1 in 14 would have given King's Lynn a sniff of a chance but there's no way any of our 7 would get near a dialled in Kurtz & Bewley. 

Absolutely no chance of a blunder from Lyon.

Why are you adamant it wasn't a blunder by Lyon?

There's no guarantee Rowe would've gotten a 5-1 in heat 14, but they have to try for it. What if there was an engine failure in the least heat?

There's also the bonus point to consider ahead of the second leg.

[szkocjasid]

1 minute ago, SuperStarsFan91 said:

The only reason I can think of as to why Rowe didn’t take Harrison’s place in heat 14 is that he didn’t want to ride 5 rides, as he hasn’t long come back from injury… but if that was the case then we shouldn’t have asked him to guest/he shouldn’t have accepted 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah thinking the exact same thing

[tellboy]

3 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Why are you adamant it wasn't a blunder by Lyon?

There's no guarantee Rowe would've gotten a 5-1 in heat 14, but they have to try for it. What if there was an engine failure in the least heat?

There's also the bonus point to consider ahead of the second leg.

If there was an ef in ht15,Harrison could have gone in there and got 1/2 points.

[PhilTheAce]

Great result that especially with Brady riding through the pain barrier. 
 

better things to come, don’t count us out 

[tellboy]

2 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

Great result that especially with Brady riding through the pain barrier. 
 

better things to come, don’t count us out 

You use to be one of the better posters.

[tellboy]

12 minutes ago, SuperStarsFan91 said:

The only reason I can think of as to why Rowe didn’t take Harrison’s place in heat 14 is that he didn’t want to ride 5 rides, as he hasn’t long come back from injury… but if that was the case then we shouldn’t have asked him to guest/he shouldn’t have accepted 🤷🏻‍♂️

Rowe wasn't feeling confident in his equipment being fast enough tonight so was a toss with Harrison for ht14 according to Rob

Kvech is hoping to be back against Birmingham next week.

[szkocjasid]

14 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

There's no guarantee Rowe would've gotten a 5-1 in heat 14, but they have to try for it. What if there was an engine failure in the least heat?

There's also the bonus point to consider ahead of the second leg.

 

8 minutes ago, tellboy said:

If there was an ef in ht15,Harrison could have gone in there and got 1/2 points.

Belle Vue were 2 points up after heat 14, an ef for Kurtz or Bewley & Aces still would have won.

If (and it's just an if) Rowe got a 5-1 in heat 14, then Lynn would've won had their been an ef for Kurtz or Bewley.

That's why I think Lynn made a mistake not making a reserve change in heat 14. If Rowe wasn't fit enough for rides, he shouldn't have taken the guest booking, so wouldn't use that as an excuse.

[szkocjasid]

4 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Rowe wasn't feeling confident in his equipment being fast enough tonight so was a toss with Harrison for ht14 according to Rob

Kvech is hoping to be back against Birmingham next week.

Should Rob not have been in his ear convincing him he was the right choice for heat 14 then?

Rowe only has to be better than Harrison to be the best choice.

No slight on Harrison, who scored a good point when he beat Blodorn.

[SuperStarsFan91]

12 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Rowe wasn't feeling confident in his equipment being fast enough tonight so was a toss with Harrison for ht14 according to Rob

Kvech is hoping to be back against Birmingham next week.

Whether he was feeling confident enough in his equipment or not he was on paid 6 at the time and Harrison was on paid 2 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am very confident that Rowe would have at least beaten Zischke in heat 14 and if he had gated on a 5-1 with Ben like Luke did then he would have had more chance of holding onto it 👍🏻 

[PhilTheAce]

22 minutes ago, tellboy said:

You use to be one of the better posters.

All a bit of fun tell

[stevebrum]

11 hours ago, Gavan said:

Brady Kurtz since his injury

12 rides … 9 wins and 2 seconds and a third 

Jan Kvech 

6 rides …. 2 thirds 4 lasts and can hardly hold the bike 

Totally comparable lol 

Absolutely. In fairness it’s only certain fans that are comparing the injuries as like for like.

laughable really.

Stars would have won with Kvech tonight. Aces are no threat in the play unless their rivals have continued bad luck with injuries or they make changes. 

[ouch]

A mundane run of the mill win with little to get the heart pumping. If the track is as gate’n’go next week the gaters from Ipswich will make mince meat of us. If it’s the usual race track it will be fantastic. 

Rowes 4+2 was no match for Jans 4+1 from last time and probably cost the stars victory. 

The win helped put some daylight between us in the qualification table at 8 points (11 if we win the meeting with the Brummies that we have in hand). Will it be enough? Who knows at this stage and that’s what makes the play offs so enthralling. 

Noricks off night kept things close. His previous league scores are pretty consistent at home with 7+2, 8, 7, 7, 7+2 so hopefully tonight was just one of those nights. Looking at the team declarations he’s one of the better number two’s so hopefully he’ll maintain his usual good form. At just turned 21, he is certainly the youngest and I’m excited to see how he progresses with age. 

[ouch]

39 minutes ago, tellboy said:

You use to be one of the better posters.

He’s taken the bait and descended to replying to trolls at their level. It’s their endgame and something I’ve fallen for in the past. They make it a far worse place on here as they infect the entire site. 

 

[ouch]

1 hour ago, castrolargh said:

I did wonder if that was what it was. Agree about Jan ,quite possibly would have had 6 if not 7 rides tonight,and would have surely been good for double figures , especially how belle vues middle order were tonight. 

Really? In place of who and in which heats?

[Robinh88]

2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said:

Great result that especially with Brady riding through the pain barrier. 
 

better things to come, don’t count us out 

On the wind up again?

[tellboy]

6 hours ago, ouch said:

Really? In place of who and in which heats?

Definitely ht14.With just that I would expect Jan,with the current form he was in to score another 4pts more than Rowe.That would meant beating the reserves and Cook.More than possible imo.

[Bagpuss]

6 hours ago, ouch said:

Really? In place of who and in which heats?

How about heats 14 & 15 for a start?

I know I'm biting to a troll (shame on me I know) but Kvechs 4 last time was in the top five and not on the back of 16, 18 and what should have been double figures in a GP. The way he has been riding I'd not have put it past him to have beaten Bewley and Kurtz but we'll never know.

[Bagpuss]

7 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Belle Vue were 2 points up after heat 14, an ef for Kurtz or Bewley & Aces still would have won.

If (and it's just an if) Rowe got a 5-1 in heat 14, then Lynn would've won had their been an ef for Kurtz or Bewley.

That's why I think Lynn made a mistake not making a reserve change in heat 14. If Rowe wasn't fit enough for rides, he shouldn't have taken the guest booking, so wouldn't use that as an excuse.

Unfortunately the choices for guest were very slim pickings, I think Rowe was worth the risk as he rides BV well and has been in pretty good form, but it didn't work out. Other choices just weren't in the same ball park.

I also think you really need to get out of your black and white world and stop constantly hammering team managers for their choices every single meeting, you keep calling them out for mistakes without really having a clue what goes on in the pits. Perhaps you should ask one or two if you can shadow them on a race night to see what actually goes on rather than being a Clever Trevor from hundreds of miles away.