Youhave2minutes Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, singy13 said: And their jockeys of course !!!!! Will have to reign that one in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: British Speedway doesn't have the finances to issue those demands anymore. If someone is signed to the top 2 divisions of the Polish League they'll just leave. We're already in a rider shortage situation having to have wobblers at reserve in both our leagues. I don't follow Championship Speedway at all, what's been the situation with teams going to Poole on a Wednesday & Glasgow on a Sunday for example?? Has there been regular R/R - Guests due to none injured rider's being elsewhere?? It only doesn't have the finances because the crowds are not coming in. If riders want to ditch UK for Poland, fair enough, good luck to them. Currently the lunatics are running the asylum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, IainB said: It only doesn't have the finances because the crowds are not coming in. If riders want to ditch UK for Poland, fair enough, good luck to them. Currently the lunatics are running the asylum. The frustration of course being it has had the finances .. Just used wrongly.... Simon Lambert? Robert Lambert? Neither known outside a tiny circle of followers but a big difference in earnings I would think... Using just a few millions of the many the sport has taken in and laid out to riders over the past 3 decades, and, instead using this money to market and promote the sport, or subsidise admission costs, and many more would be attending now given the public awareness would be much greater... "I need a GP rider!, I need a No1, and they don't come cheap"!! And all to "attract" the current crowd levels...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: The frustration of course being it has had the finances .. Just used wrongly.... Simon Lambert? Robert Lambert? Neither known outside a tiny circle of followers but a big difference in earnings I would think... Using just a few millions of the many the sport has taken in and laid out to riders over the past 3 decades, and, instead using this money to market and promote the sport, or subsidise admission costs, and many more would be attending now given the public awareness would be much greater... "I need a GP rider!, I need a No1, and they don't come cheap"!! And all to "attract" the current crowd levels...? Unfortunately we are where we are but I'd take 100% committed Simon Lambert over play off Bob every day of the week 👍🏻 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 46 minutes ago, IainB said: Unfortunately we are where we are but I'd take 100% committed Simon Lambert over play off Bob every day of the week 👍🏻 I’d rather watch paint dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Youhave2minutes said: I’d rather watch paint dry Ive said it before and ill say it again, Simon Lambert has done much more for the sport than your inane and nonsensical posts on here ever will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, IainB said: Unfortunately we are where we are but I'd take 100% committed Simon Lambert over play off Bob every day of the week 👍🏻 100%... You could have a very decent season of racing with "14 Simon Lambert's" riding each week...... And have a very similar crowd level, (after the initial novelty has worn off after about four weeks), that "14 Robert Lambert's" would deliver.... With one being very much more costly than the other, for very little difference in both the entertainment level and the size of the prize in winning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 34 minutes ago, therefused said: Ive said it before and ill say it again, Simon Lambert has done much more for the sport than your inane and nonsensical posts on here ever will. Nice guys don’t wash in speedway. I’ve sponsored riders in the past who have been crapped on and they have not underperformed or fell victim to points limits. Not denying he hasn’t but now is the time to hang up the Kevlars. He opted to stand down last year and that should have been excepted. If any rider thinks they are letting the team down they should stand down instead of being dropped. I don’t do nonsensical posts, only speak the truth. Edited 3 hours ago by Youhave2minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: 100%... You could have a very decent season of racing with "14 Simon Lambert's" riding each week...... And have a very similar crowd level, (after the initial novelty has worn off after about four weeks), that "14 Robert Lambert's" would deliver.... With one being very much more costly than the other, for very little difference in both the entertainment level and the size of the prize in winning. Anyone saying they would rather watch 14 2nd tier riders over 14 GP riders is lying. If there was Wroclaw vs Torun or Poole vs Glasgow on the same distance away from me, I am picking the first meeting everyday of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, mikebv said: 100%... You could have a very decent season of racing with "14 Simon Lambert's" riding each week...... And have a very similar crowd level, (after the initial novelty has worn off after about four weeks), that "14 Robert Lambert's" would deliver.... With one being very much more costly than the other, for very little difference in both the entertainment level and the size of the prize in winning. And with 14 Robert Lambert's you wouldn't get a meeting until late August. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Kieran22222 said: Anyone saying they would rather watch 14 2nd tier riders over 14 GP riders is lying. If there was Wroclaw vs Torun or Poole vs Glasgow on the same distance away from me, I am picking the first meeting everyday of the week. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Kieran22222 said: Anyone saying they would rather watch 14 2nd tier riders over 14 GP riders is lying. If there was Wroclaw vs Torun or Poole vs Glasgow on the same distance away from me, I am picking the first meeting everyday of the week. You are comparing apples to oranges .. To watch that standard of Poliish racing over here would mean an enormous admission fee to get in.. More than Premier League football... Meaning crowds wouldn't increase, but actually drop... They pay circa ten times the money, so you would need ten times the current money through the doors... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: You are comparing apples to oranges .. To watch that standard of Poliish racing over here would mean an enormous admission fee to get in.. More than Premier League football... Meaning crowds wouldn't increase, but actually drop... They pay circa ten times the money, so you would need ten times the current money through the doors... And that would be bananas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: And that would be bananas Or nuts ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran22222 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 36 minutes ago, mikebv said: You are comparing apples to oranges .. To watch that standard of Poliish racing over here would mean an enormous admission fee to get in.. More than Premier League football... Meaning crowds wouldn't increase, but actually drop... They pay circa ten times the money, so you would need ten times the current money through the doors... I mean you wouldn't if sponsorship, attendances and TV money was at the level Poland is, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is if British Speedway was at the same level as Polish speedway you are not choosing 14 journeyman British riders with part time jobs over the best riders in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago The best riders in the world start level and then follow each other around the track very similarly to the ones who are not. Watching some of the Polish meetings it’s just like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 29 minutes ago Report Share Posted 29 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Kieran22222 said: I mean you wouldn't if sponsorship, attendances and TV money was at the level Poland is, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is if British Speedway was at the same level as Polish speedway you are not choosing 14 journeyman British riders with part time jobs over the best riders in the world Of course you wouldn't... But, the sport clearly isn't at the same level over here. That is why Poland can pay £50k plus a meeting to certain individual riders, using massive TV money, massive national company sponsors and five figure crowds... If the UK had the same income you wouldn't need part time riders... However, by the same logic .. If my Auntie had, had bollox she would have been my Uncle.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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