Fortythirtyeight Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 51 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Yes I have read it and thankfully there was a handful of promoters, riders and sponsors there who can see the bigger picture and if anything came to any fruition from it at all then it’s a damn sight more than the naysayers who will argue a point to sit a home and do nothing and expect the fruits to just land on their lap, we are where we are because of that mindset Or the opposite opinion, we get no where with the attitude of ‘ I am right and the rest of you are wrong ‘ promoter type attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Or the opposite opinion, we get no where with the attitude of ‘ I am right and the rest of you are wrong ‘ promoter type attitude. I’ve never said I’m right, I know some especially on here are sometimes way off the mark because I MAY know the facts but I don’t need to correct them, it’s a forum, it’s opinions, nobody is right or wrong, promoters are in the main decent folk with the odd exception, I read all posts and look to what people are saying and at the end of the day my opinion is a valuable or useless as yours even without quoting someone to get your point over Edited November 16 by THE DEAN MACHINE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted November 17 Author Report Share Posted November 17 Well a number of people on here have mentioned about what is the point of clubs attending this event. From our perspective, our stall was very popular and was crowded pretty much all day. I practically lost my voice by the end of the day. A very large number of supporters from all over the country joined our monthly Forever Fund lottery, which has been set up not only to help with legal costs (contributed just under a third so far) but to assist us in the future. From that view it was massively worthwhile. If anyone on here wants to join, it costs £10 a month with cash prizes up for winning every month. Each month people receive a newsletter with results and details of companies nationwide offering discounts on products and services. Sarah Miles runs the fund, for more information about the fund or to join email panthersforeverfund@gmail.com 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said: Well a number of people on here have mentioned about what is the point of clubs attending this event. From our perspective, our stall was very popular and was crowded pretty much all day. I practically lost my voice by the end of the day. A very large number of supporters from all over the country joined our monthly Forever Fund lottery, which has been set up not only to help with legal costs (contributed just under a third so far) but to assist us in the future. From that view it was massively worthwhile. If anyone on here wants to join, it costs £10 a month with cash prizes up for winning every month. Each month people receive a newsletter with results and details of companies nationwide offering discounts on products and services. Sarah Miles runs the fund, for more information about the fund or to join email panthersforeverfund@gmail.com But Mick, you must admit you have a particular situation to keep in the public eye with an audience that is primarily committed speedway fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 20 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Or the opposite opinion, we get no where with the attitude of ‘ I am right and the rest of you are wrong ‘ promoter type attitude. It's a sad fact that there will, no doubt, be a few promoters who visited the weekend's collectors fair, who will now be patting themselves on the back and claiming that, by standing around in the village hall talking to a few diehard fans, they have done their share of promoting and marketing their club to a new audience. That will be the excuse not to do any real promotion and marketing, and next season they'lll be wondering why crowds are down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Bratley Posted November 17 Author Report Share Posted November 17 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: But Mick, you must admit you have a particular situation to keep in the public eye with an audience that is primarily committed speedway fans. Oh absolutely I agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 6 hours ago, PotteringAround said: It's a sad fact that there will, no doubt, be a few promoters who visited the weekend's collectors fair, who will now be patting themselves on the back and claiming that, by standing around in the village hall talking to a few diehard fans, they have done their share of promoting and marketing their club to a new audience. That will be the excuse not to do any real promotion and marketing, and next season they'lll be wondering why crowds are down. What a load of cr@p several people from worky made a 400+ miles round trip at their own expense ,to spread the name of worky to all who attended and by all accounts sold a bit of merchandise to help the club funds 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 14 hours ago, Neila said: What a load of cr@p several people from worky made a 400+ miles round trip at their own expense ,to spread the name of worky to all who attended and by all accounts sold a bit of merchandise to help the club funds Several people from Workington, who have never seen speedway before, travelled all the way to a speedway collectors fair, and now say they will become regular fans? Pull the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Several people from Workington, who have never seen speedway before, travelled all the way to a speedway collectors fair, and now say they will become regular fans? Pull the other one. Nowhere does it say they wernt speedway fans ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 22 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: But Mick, you must admit you have a particular situation to keep in the public eye with an audience that is primarily committed speedway fans. Exactly. Peterborough have an important message they need to spread throughout existing speedway fans in the East Midlands/East Anglia area. It makes total sense for them to be present at a Speedway collectors fair in the East Midlands, which is full of existing speedway fans from the East Midlands. That's a totally different scenario from expecting the Glasgow promoters to make a 600-mile round trip to Coventry, to a hall full of existing speedway fans, hoping to market the sport to some Glaswegians who have never seen speedway before, and who aren't there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 2 minutes ago, geoff100 said: Nowhere does it say they wernt speedway fans ! Exactly. So a pointless exercise in preaching to the converted! Not a single non-speedway fan in the hall, but some misguided souls think promoters should have been there, "marketing the sport" to people who weren't there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 15 hours ago, Neila said: What a load of cr@p several people from worky made a 400+ miles round trip at their own expense ,to spread the name of worky to all who attended and by all accounts sold a bit of merchandise to help the club funds I would say 100% of people who were spoken too know workington have a track already. Good for them on selling 'a bit' of merchandise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 59 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Exactly. So a pointless exercise in preaching to the converted! Not a single non-speedway fan in the hall, but some misguided souls think promoters should have been there, "marketing the sport" to people who weren't there. Maybe they should have been listening to the fans rather than 'preaching' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 (edited) 10 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Several people from Workington, who have never seen speedway before, travelled all the way to a speedway collectors fair, and now say they will become regular fans? Pull the other one. I have to say that the arrogance of some people is quite stunning. I am not a Workington supporter, but you should be aware that there is a long history of Speedway in the town. I have been to Workington many a time when I was supporting Sunderland back in the 70's. Try doing a little research before you start trying to belittle people. Well done you Workington Supporters on your great example. *** If I have misread this Post, then I unreservedly APOLOGISE. Edited November 18 by The White Knight Apparently, I misunderstood a Post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 4 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Exactly. So a pointless exercise in preaching to the converted! Not a single non-speedway fan in the hall, but some misguided souls think promoters should have been there, "marketing the sport" to people who weren't there. That's far from the truth. I saw several people with white stickers on their shirts that had come to the motor museum & were allowed into the speedway show & some of our fantastic speedway people were more than happy to spread the gospel of our sport. Now weather or not any of those people have or ever will attend a speedway event I can't answer but the seed has been sown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadster Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 On 11/17/2025 at 2:19 PM, PotteringAround said: It's a sad fact that there will, no doubt, be a few promoters who visited the weekend's collectors fair, who will now be patting themselves on the back and claiming that, by standing around in the village hall talking to a few diehard fans, they have done their share of promoting and marketing their club to a new audience. That will be the excuse not to do any real promotion and marketing, and next season they'lll be wondering why crowds are down. 6 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Exactly. Peterborough have an important message they need to spread throughout existing speedway fans in the East Midlands/East Anglia area. It makes total sense for them to be present at a Speedway collectors fair in the East Midlands, which is full of existing speedway fans from the East Midlands. That's a totally different scenario from expecting the Glasgow promoters to make a 600-mile round trip to Coventry, to a hall full of existing speedway fans, hoping to market the sport to some Glaswegians who have never seen speedway before, and who aren't there! It might help your case if you didn't refer to an important museum as a 'village hall' and if you could tell the difference between East and West. Coventry is and always has been in the West Midlands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 6 hours ago, PotteringAround said: Exactly. So a pointless exercise in preaching to the converted! Not a single non-speedway fan in the hall, but some misguided souls think promoters should have been there, "marketing the sport" to people who weren't there. Don’t upset the Dean Machine any more… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 2 hours ago, The White Knight said: I have to say that the arrogance of some people is quite stunning. I am not a Workington supporter, but you should be aware that there is a long history of Speedway in the town. I have been to Workington many a time when I was supporting Sunderland back in the 70's. Try doing a little research before you start trying to belittle people. Well done you Workington Supporters on your great example. Think you have completely misread his his statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 3 hours ago, The White Knight said: I have to say that the arrogance of some people is quite stunning. I am not a Workington supporter, but you should be aware that there is a long history of Speedway in the town. I have been to Workington many a time when I was supporting Sunderland back in the 70's. Try doing a little research before you start trying to belittle people. Well done you Workington Supporters on your great example. Did you happen to read the post you are replying to? Because your strange reply has no relevance to his post. 57 minutes ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Think you have completely misread his his statement. You're not kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 I've seen some pointless arguments on this forum but this one takes the biscuit! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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