IainB Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: What was the average price per ticket? £50 or so? If it was, that's £575k in income... Not a bad little earner given no hiring of the venue needed. .. Cheapest ticket was over £60 wasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:58 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: ...and Cardiff cost the organiser at least 4 times as much just on renting the stadium!! What were the (monetary) costs of Cardiff vs Manchester? Edited Thursday at 06:58 PM by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:07 PM 4 minutes ago, IainB said: What were the (monetary) costs of Cardiff vs Manchester? I remember reading that Cardiff was circa six figures to hire the venue... And was kept by the owners of the series rights as their own promotion and not tendered out to anyone else... Warsaw was the same... Presume as they were considered "cash cows"... The Welsh Tourist Board subsidised the costs to some degree too... 40,000 at around forty quid must have been worth doing... 20,000 at around forty quid much less so, hence no more Cardiff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: I remember reading that Cardiff was circa six figures to hire the venue... And was kept by the owners of the series rights as their own promotion and not tendered out to anyone else... Warsaw was the same... Presume as they were considered "cash cows"... The Welsh Tourist Board subsidised the costs to some degree too... 40,000 at around forty quid must have been worth doing... 20,000 at around forty quid much less so, hence no more Cardiff... Yes, all that... but think of the intangibles i.e. profile, awareness, press coverage etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:27 PM 2 hours ago, Hawk127 said: Not sure about Belle Vue but the figures published are as follows: Warsaw 48k , Vojens 19.90k , Wroclaw 13.50k, Torun (SoN & SoN2) 13.10k, Gorzow 12.50k, Prague 11.50k (inc SGP3), Manchester 11.50, Melilla 8.70k, Landshut 7.8k and Riga (inc SGP 2) 6.70k Appreciate what you say about the venues but it does seem that live attendances might be in decline and that is not good news if the plans were to spread it around other non European stadia. Maybe fans are tired of the format and that in reality you are not seeing the top sixteen riders in the world. Whatever the reasons it is failing to ignite the enthusiasm which once surrounded the world championship. The reality of not seeing Top 16 and the Format are big factors in live attendances.Im definitely not a fan of the format or points allocated on the night.Just my opinion though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM 48 minutes ago, IainB said: Yes, all that... but think of the intangibles i.e. profile, awareness, press coverage etc. Was there really any major positive impact on those measures? After the initial novelty wore off, and BSI no longer marketed the GP as vigorously, it became just another speedway meeting for many... Hence crowds eroded away after around ten years or so of reasonable growth.. It certainly did nothing for UK domestic speedway as the current malaise shows... If the NSS gets around 6k a night this year, that will still be a fair percentage of the total punters who regularly attend UK Speedway at the fourteen tracks left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted Thursday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:07 PM 2 hours ago, mikebv said: What was the average price per ticket? £50 or so? If it was, that's £575k in income... Well, about £480k (don't forget the Vatman has 16.67% of the income for the government). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Thursday at 09:12 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:12 PM (edited) 25 minutes ago, mikebv said: Was there really any major positive impact on those measures? After the initial novelty wore off, and BSI no longer marketed the GP as vigorously, it became just another speedway meeting for many... Hence crowds eroded away after around ten years or so of reasonable growth.. It certainly did nothing for UK domestic speedway as the current malaise shows... If the NSS gets around 6k a night this year, that will still be a fair percentage of the total punters who regularly attend UK Speedway at the fourteen tracks left... I'm not blind to the fact that Cardiff was well past its best, but it was allowed to become what it was... but it was still the biggest Speedway meeting in the world for many many years and brought publicity and awareness to our sport. I'm not going to go through all of the Manchester vs Cardiff arguments again but there's no escaping the fact that we've gone from the 2nd highest attended Speedway meeting of the year to bottom of the SGP attendances. Edited Thursday at 09:13 PM by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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