Northampton vs Ipswich June 29th

[Aries]

19 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

you will be seeing him a lot more that just this week

Like most Danes, he’s a decent trapper so will help at Foxhall in particular..

[mikebv]

23 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said:

im looking forward to my first time at Northampton next week, 

 

first year, came to the league late, still an awful lot of work to be done in winter, i wont have high hopes of anything NSS standard and i suggest others do also, judge them next season like we have to judge Richard Coleman next season

And a last heat decider, with a Northampton win, wouldn't be the worst result in the world for UK Speedway....

[mikebv]

5 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said:

 

I think a lot will depend on who owns Fox's in 2027 if its the current promoters I would expect things to look similar to 2026 but Flagrag did also hint there was another interested party with serious resources if they came in the whole outlook would shift. The one positive is there does seem to be a hardcore crowd already established and the track is the right shape if someone sorts it out and clears the house bricks off it.

Wasn't one of the major aims of the season to show a potential purchaser that Speedway at Northampton was viable?...

They were not going to commit blindly but were prepared to come on board if the venture proved itself...

[BTFC LION]

OK I'm home now, have an hour or so, please ask any questions, 

Ianb, sponsorship boards, or interview backdrop, someone has come into the track a few weeks ago and measured up, if I'm a correct they are all supplied to the clubs, not down to individual clubs to get them made or fitted.

 

[therefused]

12 minutes ago, BTFC LION said:

OK I'm home now, have an hour or so, please ask any questions, 

Ianb, sponsorship boards, or interview backdrop, someone has come into the track a few weeks ago and measured up, if I'm a correct they are all supplied to the clubs, not down to individual clubs to get them made or fitted.

 

how much measuring up is actually needed for a sponsorship board or an interview backdrop? 

[YeOldPitGate]

2 hours ago, noaksey said:

Imminently someone told me yesterday (not an official source though)

Hopefully swap out for Batch

[BTFC LION]

13 minutes ago, therefused said:

how much measuring up is actually needed for a sponsorship board or an interview backdrop? 

From my time at another club they measure all of the back of the pits, so it shows the league sponsors behind all the riders, as for the interview backdrop I'm not sure where that will be put? Think its more about the time making it up than measuring up, look at all clubs pit walls, all the same,possibly including that clubs team sponsors.

 

[Spoofer]

8 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Surprised that's true - did he say that in the interview?

No as it's not true. 

 

 

[BTFC LION]

9 hours ago, IainB said:

I hate to be critical of such a new venture, I really do, but there are some basics that need to be addressed and soon...

The whole show seems a bit slap dash, they haven't yet once started on time! Craig Saul, as good and informative as he is at interviews etc. is no hype man! The team manager, the less said about him the better... but the track! The promotion may not be able to control many things, such as rider performances etc. but they can control the track and last night was the worst yet... yes there'll be the usual excuses, couldn't get on the track in time, the bowser broke down etc. but on each and every occasion it has been too dry and dusty to generate any grip for the riders and last night they had the added bones of giant stones and rocks hitting them.

BSN were towing the usual Speedway line last night in that we must be grateful that they have come to the tapes... NO! They are (or should be) a professional outfit operating in the top tier of British Speedway and what they're putting out, especially with the track, is just not up to muster and the "fans" are already voting with their feet.

Track prep, you are correct about a bowser braking down,  not an excuse, its the big one the stock cars own and use, a fitter came out at 7am on Monday morning,  couldn't fix it and was unable to get the parts.We had to fetch a second crop sprayer from kings lynn as a emergency.  Crop sprayer are great for getting an even water all over the track, but not so good for flooding first thing in the morning. Baring this all happened in the morning,  when we really needed to be getting on with the track. Issue will be hopefully resolved for the next meeting. 

Stones! Yes not good at all !! Unfortunately they are all in the material that has been provided.  Have asked for the material to be screened,  or new material. 

Only problem the riders had with the track was that it was a little deep coming off the bends, causing them to much grip, would of gone straight out after ht1, but ref called ht2 to the start line, so acted as soon as we were allowed. 

Track grading after ht4, was also going to water, but were told not to. 

Ht7 and ht11 we did do both, as we wanted to.

 

[BTFC LION]

9 hours ago, IainB said:

I hate to be critical of such a new venture, I really do, but there are some basics that need to be addressed and soon...

The whole show seems a bit slap dash, they haven't yet once started on time! Craig Saul, as good and informative as he is at interviews etc. is no hype man! The team manager, the less said about him the better... but the track! The promotion may not be able to control many things, such as rider performances etc. but they can control the track and last night was the worst yet... yes there'll be the usual excuses, couldn't get on the track in time, the bowser broke down etc. but on each and every occasion it has been too dry and dusty to generate any grip for the riders and last night they had the added bones of giant stones and rocks hitting them.

BSN were towing the usual Speedway line last night in that we must be grateful that they have come to the tapes... NO! They are (or should be) a professional outfit operating in the top tier of British Speedway and what they're putting out, especially with the track, is just not up to muster and the "fans" are already voting with their feet.

Track prep, you are correct about a bowser braking down,  not an excuse, its the big one the stock cars own and use, a fitter came out at 7am on Monday morning,  couldn't fix it and was unable to get the parts.We had to fetch a second crop sprayer from kings lynn as a emergency.  Crop sprayer are great for getting an even water all over the track, but not so good for flooding first thing in the morning. Baring this all happened in the morning,  when we really needed to be getting on with the track. Issue will be hopefully resolved for the next meeting. 

Stones! Yes not good at all !! Unfortunately they are all in the material that has been provided.  Have asked for the material to be screened,  or new material. 

Only problem the riders had with the track was that it was a little deep coming off the bends, causing them to much grip, would of gone straight out after ht1, but ref called ht2 to the start line, so acted as soon as we were allowed. 

Track grading after ht4, was also going to water, but were told not to. 

Ht7 and ht11 we did do both, as we wanted to.

 

[SteveArena]

Any team changes coming up that you have heard?

[BTFC LION]

The Northampton track has been prepared in 4 different ways so far, 1st meeting it was prepped, but had 2 hours practice on it, so not much we can do after, that. 2nd meeting we were asked to make it grippy,  we did and they didnt like it.

Different again for the 3rd meeting, it was better!  

4th meeting similar,  not bad.

5th meeting not enough water in early enough admittedly,  but could of been controlled. 

Starts have been Different every meeting, on request, 

It's all experimental,  to try and find the best possible track. It will happen, 

[mikebv]

6 minutes ago, BTFC LION said:

The Northampton track has been prepared in 4 different ways so far, 1st meeting it was prepped, but had 2 hours practice on it, so not much we can do after, that. 2nd meeting we were asked to make it grippy,  we did and they didnt like it.

Different again for the 3rd meeting, it was better!  

4th meeting similar,  not bad.

5th meeting not enough water in early enough admittedly,  but could of been controlled. 

Starts have been Different every meeting, on request, 

It's all experimental,  to try and find the best possible track. It will happen, 

Thanks for the detailed honest resoonse..

All you need to do for next week is prepare a track that let's Brady Kurtz win his first four races from the back...

And has him then just failing to pass Jaimon Lidsey on the line in Ht15, as Jaimon secures a 46-44 victory for the Foxes...

Shouldn't be too difficult to do that should it??...

We'll leave it with you...

 

[IainB]

2 hours ago, BTFC LION said:

OK I'm home now, have an hour or so, please ask any questions, 

Ianb, sponsorship boards, or interview backdrop, someone has come into the track a few weeks ago and measured up, if I'm a correct they are all supplied to the clubs, not down to individual clubs to get them made or fitted.

 

 

55 minutes ago, BTFC LION said:

Track prep, you are correct about a bowser braking down,  not an excuse, its the big one the stock cars own and use, a fitter came out at 7am on Monday morning,  couldn't fix it and was unable to get the parts.We had to fetch a second crop sprayer from kings lynn as a emergency.  Crop sprayer are great for getting an even water all over the track, but not so good for flooding first thing in the morning. Baring this all happened in the morning,  when we really needed to be getting on with the track. Issue will be hopefully resolved for the next meeting. 

Stones! Yes not good at all !! Unfortunately they are all in the material that has been provided.  Have asked for the material to be screened,  or new material. 

Only problem the riders had with the track was that it was a little deep coming off the bends, causing them to much grip, would of gone straight out after ht1, but ref called ht2 to the start line, so acted as soon as we were allowed. 

Track grading after ht4, was also going to water, but were told not to. 

Ht7 and ht11 we did do both, as we wanted to.

 

Mate, for one who in your PM said that I was "just shouting on forums", you've pretty much pointed out exactly what I have pointed out 🤷‍♂️

Look, nobody on here is pointing the finger at or calling out any of the individuals who work so hard to put Speedway meetings on, it's greatly appreciated by all of us I'm sure of that.

As is so often the case in Speedway (and many walks of life) it's down to management, organisation and contingency... why for example have they failed to start a single meeting on time so far this season? Why are we nearly in July and the sponsorship boards are still not in place? (one of the league sponsors literally does this stuff https://mediaco.co.uk/) Why is the track not being prepared consistently? Why are different people asking for different things regarding track prep? Why is this happening in during league and cup meetings and not on a "track day"?

Where is Phil Morris, who did such a lot of good work over the last couple of years that seems to be being reversed on an almost weekly basis?

Anyway, thanks for coming back to everybody with some reasoned explanations after you'd calmed down and thank you for the work that you do 👍

Edited 2 hours ago by IainB

[BTFC LION]

35 minutes ago, IainB said:

 

Mate, for one who in your PM said that I was "just shouting on forums", you've pretty much pointed out exactly what I have pointed out 🤷‍♂️

Look, nobody on here is pointing the finger at or calling out any of the individuals who work so hard to put Speedway meetings on, it's greatly appreciated by all of us I'm sure of that.

As is so often the case in Speedway (and many walks of life) it's down to management, organisation and contingency... why for example have they failed to start a single meeting on time so far this season? Why are we nearly in July and the sponsorship boards are still not in place? (one of the league sponsors literally does this stuff https://mediaco.co.uk/) Why is the track not being prepared consistently? Why are different people asking for different things regarding track prep? Why is this happening in during league and cup meetings and not on a "track day"?

Where is Phil Morris, who did such a lot of good work over the last couple of years that seems to be being reversed on an almost weekly basis?

Anyway, thanks for coming back to everybody with some reasoned explanations after you'd calmed down and thank you for the work that you do 👍

It's the way you come across with what you say, quote tracks the worst its been, actually it wasnt, I have said it on this forum many times,I would rather someone ask a genuine question as to why something was like it was on a particular night. That way you will get the best answers. 

I believe now we have a general agreement on how the starts will be prepared, also on how the track will be set up. It's nearly impossible to have it exactly the same every week. So many factors involved that can change it, many beyond our control,  eg, weather, even a few degrees difference in temperature. This is an open invite to anyone who has genuine questions to msg on here,or see me at a track.

 

[IainB]

24 minutes ago, BTFC LION said:

It's the way you come across with what you say, quote tracks the worst its been, actually it wasnt, I have said it on this forum many times,I would rather someone ask a genuine question as to why something was like it was on a particular night. That way you will get the best answers. 

I believe now we have a general agreement on how the starts will be prepared, also on how the track will be set up. It's nearly impossible to have it exactly the same every week. So many factors involved that can change it, many beyond our control,  eg, weather, even a few degrees difference in temperature. This is an open invite to anyone who has genuine questions to msg on here,or see me at a track.

 

To be fair, to me, I wasn't aware that it was you who was doing the track at Northampton... I've asked questions of promotions in the past and not received so much as a courtesy of a reply, so forgive me if I've lost a little confidence. 

As for the way I come across, I apologise for my sometimes sledgehammer like delivery, I'd love to have the time to fluff it all up a bit, but I do like to get straight to the point. 

[Spoofer]

Hopefully Northampton can get you a grader soon and not just the blade that you have...