Ipswich Witches 2027

[Paddy The Rebel]

Doyle 8.40

Ellis 5.97

King 7.16

Brennan 5.76

Woryna 8.00

35.29 is that to high for top 5 

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11 minutes ago, Paddy The Rebel said:

Doyle 8.40

Ellis 5.97

King 7.16

Brennan 5.76

Woryna 8.00

35.29 is that to high for top 5 

Woryna 7.50 apparently.

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1 hour ago, Aries said:

 

Unless I’ve ballsed my maths up a 5 pointer wouldn’t fit either T. I make it 4.95 left if it’s 37 for top 6.

So Kemp, Rushen or Howarth.

Just goes to show how tight it is and that’s IF we could get Cairns as a 3 pointer at number 6! 
 

If Woryna doesn’t happen on 7.50, it’s almost impossible to get another heatleader in to support Doyle. Even if we retained Musielak to back up Doyle, that would leave 4.37 which also rules out Kemp, Howarth and Rushen! 
 

Really nobody out there on that figure.

I've got the following GSA's from the SpeedwayGB site.

 

Doyley 8.40

King 7.35 -> 7.17 after 2.5% Reduction

Ellis 6.13 -> 5.98 after 2.5% Reduction

Brennan 5.91 -> 5.76 after 2.5% Reduction

Cairns 3.77 -> 3.00 after 25% Reduction after moving out of the Rising Star scheme.

= 30.31

 

6.69 or 7.69 left depending on a 37.00 or 38.00 Limit.

Edited 1 hour ago by TTT

[Aries]

5 minutes ago, TTT said:

I've got the following GSA's from the SpeedwayGB site.

 

Doyley 8.40

King 7.35 -> 7.17 after 2.5% Reduction

Ellis 6.13 -> 5.98 after 2.5% Reduction

Brennan 5.91 -> 5.76 after 2.5% Reduction

Cairns 3.77 -> 3.00 after 25% Reduction after moving out of the Rising Star scheme.

= 30.31

 

6.69 or 7.69 left depending on a 37.00 or 38.00 Limit.

Woryna 7.50 fits in a 38.00 limit, But if it's 37.00 then we're talking about riders in the Janowski/Tungate mould who are on low GSA's with big potential to improve them much like Musielak from this season.

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/p26_issue_23.pdf
 

The last declaration has 8.62 for Doyley?

Doyle 8.62

4.95

King 7.17

Brennan 5.76

Woryna 7.50

Cairns 3.00

RS

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11 minutes ago, Aries said:

https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/p26_issue_23.pdf
 

The last declaration has 8.62 for Doyley?

Doyle 8.62

4.95

King 7.17

Brennan 5.76

Woryna 7.50

Cairns 3.00

RS

That's where I've gone wrong then.

I was taking them off the 2026 Rider Statistics page that's one place above the 2026 declarations.

Kemp, Howarth and Rushen are all on GSA's under 4.95.

Edited 1 hour ago by TTT

[Aries]

1 minute ago, TTT said:

That's where I've gone wrong then.

I was taking them off the 2026 Rider Statistics page that's one place above the 2026 declarations.

4.95 if we’re talking 37 which I think it is otherwise Northampton are nearly a couple of points below the limit if it’s 38.

If Woryna doesn’t happen, we’re kind of buggered and King will be second heatleader.

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If it's a 37.00 Limit and it's not possible to get Kemp or Rushen @ No.2 then I'm not sure the Woryna route is the right option as we'd likely have a very long tail.

Best case scenario's imo.

 

Team 1

1. J. Doyle 8.62

2. A. Ellis 5.98

3. D. King 7.17

4. T. Brennan 5.76

5. R. Tungate 6.42 or M. Janowski 6.06

6. W. Cairns 3.00

7. RS

= 36.95 or 36.59

 

Team 2

1. J. Doyle 8.62

2. D. Kemp 4.92 or C. Rushen 4.74

3. D. King 7.17

4. T. Brennan 5.76

5. K. Woryna 7.50

6. W. Cairns 3.00

7. RS

= 36.97 / 36.79

[Aries]

I’ll take team two but with Howarth at 2. 
 

Just goes to show that if we don’t get Cairns at 6 on a 3 point average and have to go for someone with a higher GSA we’re even more buggered!

Will be interesting to see how Belle Vue build if they try and fit both Kurtz and Bewley. You’re talking 17.78 just for those two!

Edited 1 hour ago by Aries

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28 minutes ago, Aries said:

4.95 if we’re talking 37 which I think it is otherwise Northampton are nearly a couple of points below the limit if it’s 38.

If Woryna doesn’t happen, we’re kind of buggered and King will be second heatleader.

What's even worse is if we don't sign Cairns because we could be looking at King @ No.5 with a couple of riders out of their depth at reserve.

With that scenario in-play, It makes the Cairns deal the top priority imo and whatever Belle Vue offer, Mayfield will have to keep upping the ante until the Aces give in even if it leaves less money to spend on the Witches engine room.

[Aries]

1 minute ago, TTT said:

What's even worse is if we don't sign Cairns because we could be looking at King @ No.5 with a couple of riders out of their depth at reserve.

With that scenario in-play, It makes the Cairns deal the top priority imo and whatever Belle Vue offer, Mayfield will have to keep upping the ante until the Aces give in even if it leaves less money to spend on the Witches engine room.

I agree re Cairns which I mentioned in the post above yours.

Trouble is we can’t compete against these chequebook clubs so we’ll no doubt lose that battle and he’ll stay where he is.

😉

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23 minutes ago, Aries said:

I’ll take team two but with Howarth at 2. 
 

Just goes to show that if we don’t get Cairns at 6 on a 3 point average and have to go for someone with a higher GSA we’re even more buggered!

Will be interesting to see how Belle Vue build if they try and fit both Kurtz and Bewley. You’re talking 17.78 just for those two!

I was going to put Howarth in but I assume he's at Leicester considering Morris is rumoured for Northampton and Kemp wouldn't fit with Douglas, Fricke, D. Thompson and Masters considering the No.6 has to be a minimum 3.00 Rider.

As for Belle Vue I assume the plan would be Kurtz, Bewley, B. Cook, Zischke or Rushen + a 4.00 Pointer, Cairns and a RS.

Edited 1 hour ago by TTT

[Aries]

11 minutes ago, TTT said:

I was going to put Howarth in but I assume he's at Leicester considering Morris is rumoured for Northampton and Kemp wouldn't fit with Douglas, Fricke, D. Thompson and Masters considering the No.6 has to be a minimum 3.00 Rider.

As for Belle Vue I assume the plan would be Kurtz, Bewley, B. Cook, ?, Rushen, Cairns and a RS.

TBF Kemp can ride Foxhall very well so there is that.

We saw how Rushen likes the NSS during the British final. Suits his style to an absolute T and he’d thrive there (Sorry Lynn).

They’d be odds on favourites again if they look anything like that.

Edit: Would leave Belle Vue 4.86 so would be after the same riders as us, Kemp and Howarth.

Edited 56 minutes ago by Aries

[mikebv]

7 minutes ago, Aries said:

I agree re Cairns which I mentioned in the post above yours.

Trouble is we can’t compete against these chequebook clubs so we’ll no doubt lose that battle and he’ll stay where he is.

😉

Chequebook clubs!!!

The Aces certainly are not one of them...

What they are though, is almost like a charity given they take huge gambles on riders who may not have made it, like Bewley, Fricke, Ben Cook, Lidsey, Kurtz, etc and then single handedly nurture them into the riders they become later in their careers ..

Then, for the greater good, they allow riders to leave so other teams can be competitive..

(Or something like that)...

[Aries]

1 minute ago, mikebv said:

Chequebook clubs!!!

The Aces certainly are not one of them...

What they are though, is almost like a charity given they take huge gambles on riders who may not have made it, like Bewley, Fricke, Ben Cook, Lidsey, Kurtz, etc and then single handedly nurture them into the riders they become later in their careers ..

Then, for the greater good, they allow riders to leave so other teams can be competitive..

(Or something like that)...

Quite right Ouch. Sorry, Mike! 
 

😜

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If the Club does miss out on Cairns then is it too late to pull the plug on any deal for King considering all deals would be subject to approval?

[mikebv]

Just now, Aries said:

Quite right Ouch. Sorry, Mike! 
 

😜

I was going to also mention something about "the cartel" but decided not to bother..

[Aries]

1 minute ago, TTT said:

If the Club does miss out on Cairns then is it too late to pull the plug on any deal for King considering all deals would be subject to approval?

He’s an issue on his average but I don’t want to keep going on about him as it’ll look like I have it in for him which I don’t at all.

He was fabulous this year and done far better than I expected. He deserves his place really.

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8 minutes ago, Aries said:

TBF Kemp can ride Foxhall very well so there is that.

We saw how Rushen likes the NSS during the British final. Suits his style to an absolute T and he’d thrive there (Sorry Lynn).

They’d be odds on favourites again if they look anything like that.

Edit: Would leave Belle Vue 4.86 so would be after the same riders as us, Kemp and Howarth.

I'm very interested in Kemp purely due to the fact that the League will likely see the vast majority of Clubs have a weak tail or at worst very weak reserves.

Kemp should be having a field day against the inexperienced riders whether they're new Rising Stars to the League or U21 Foreign Youngsters who haven't ridden a British track.

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3 minutes ago, Aries said:

He’s an issue on his average but I don’t want to keep going on about him as it’ll look like I have it in for him which I don’t at all.

He was fabulous this year and done far better than I expected. He deserves his place really.

He does deserve his place tbh, I can't deny it either.

I'm keeping faith in Mayfield pulling off the Woryna deal because a 1-5 of Doyle, Kemp, King, Brennan and Woryna makes sense at this point going by rumours and projections in regards to other Clubs 1-5's.

It even looks like a very well balanced 1-5 at first glance.