lisa-colette 6,028 Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Poole will get the 4 pouts but won't get the flight money back Well they should! Edited May 3, 2013 by lisa-colette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted May 3, 2013 Well they should! Just the 4 points will do me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 5 Posted May 3, 2013 Just the 4 points will do me. You might get them when you ride the match! No argument with BV getting docked points, but they can't just award them to Poole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted May 3, 2013 You might get them when you ride the match! No argument with BV getting docked points, but they can't just award them to Poole. Oh yes they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldace 1,678 Posted May 3, 2013 You might get them when you ride the match! No argument with BV getting docked points, but they can't just award them to Poole. To be fair if the Aces get a deduction and then an opportunity to win those points back that would be totally unfair on Poole. They would almost certainly have got the four had the Aces not cheated and they should be awarded the match. Of course the season ticket holders would need a pro rata refund as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_minall 232 Posted May 3, 2013 lets be honest if Zagar and Zorro weren't there, Poole would have got all 4 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kester 3,024 Posted May 3, 2013 lets be honest if Zagar and Zorro weren't there, Poole would have got all 4 points. Probably, but the problem is you can't apply a sanction/reward based on liklihoods. Who's to say Poole wouldn't have lost Ward and Holder with injuries in their first rides and BV would win? Any set of punishments need to apply regardless of the relative strength of the teams. If BV are docked points then they should be docked them for dodgy behaviour and this should have no impact on any future staging of the meeting. Of course, we know nothing will actually happen so all this hypothetical chat will come to nowt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonButler 33 Posted May 3, 2013 I think you will find they would say they were, hence a lot of fans leaving half way through. Complete waste of £17. However, it was probably a good night for any Wolves fans as their team was banging in 5-1 after 5-1 so they wouldn't care what the racing was like. I doubt, Gemini, that any true speedway supporter, as opposed to those individuals who are fans of any one club, likes to see a team firing in 5-1s in many heats. Doesn't it turn a spectacle into a borefest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 5 Posted May 3, 2013 To be fair if the Aces get a deduction and then an opportunity to win those points back that would be totally unfair on Poole. They would almost certainly have got the four had the Aces not cheated and they should be awarded the match. Of course the season ticket holders would need a pro rata refund as well Is it fair to the other teams in the league if Poole are awarded points for a match they didn't ride? By awarding points to Poole you are disadvantaging every other team. You can't award points on the basis of what might have been the result.... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted May 3, 2013 Is it fair to the other teams in the league if Poole are awarded points for a match they didn't ride? By awarding points to Poole you are disadvantaging every other team. You can't award points on the basis of what might have been the result.... Ok re-run without Zorro and Zagar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 5 Posted May 3, 2013 Ok re-run without Zorro and Zagar. Why would anybody want to do that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted May 3, 2013 Fine and or deduct points from BV and rerun the meeting, you cannot give points to Poole as they may have lost by more than 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,935 Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) Belle Vue have removed the apology from the official site... :lol: :lol: :lol: Edited May 3, 2013 by Jepsen Jensen Fan Club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonButler 33 Posted May 3, 2013 Is it fair to the other teams in the league if Poole are awarded points for a match they didn't ride? By awarding points to Poole you are disadvantaging every other team. You can't award points on the basis of what might have been the result.... I agree, Griff. I feel that it would be as fair as deciding the result by asking the rival captains or the team managers to draw straws! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted May 3, 2013 Fine and or deduct points from BV and rerun the meeting, you cannot give points to Poole as they may have lost by more than 6. But if you re-run the meeting with a full Belle Vue team that wouldn't be fair either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites