foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 14, 2015 Ok, try this one. If a rider puts both wheels over the white line by mistake he should not be disqualified? If it was a mistake it isn't cheating is it but his mistake should be punished because it is against the rules, if the referee was awake he would have told Newman that not wearing goggles was against the rules and put him off 15 metres. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 14, 2015 Ok, try this one. If a rider puts both wheels over the white line by mistake he should not be disqualified?Tbf no one is saying Newman shouldn't have been penalized, just that he wasn't cheating. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted December 14, 2015 Tbf no one is saying Newman shouldn't have been penalized, just that he wasn't cheating. A fine would have been enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,697 Posted December 14, 2015 I doubt any rider would want to ride without goggles considering the danger. It just illustrates the commitment Newman had for his team on the night, and that has to be applauded imo.. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted December 14, 2015 It wasn't cheating but it was against the rules. If the referee had noticed once the race started then Newman would have been disqualified and his points wouldn't have counted. It is exactly the same as when it is noticed during or, immediately after, a race that a rider has not got a dirt deflector fitted. A situation I have witnessed at least twice and on both occasions the rider was disqualified and those finishing behind him moved up a place. The reality is that the referee apparantly didn't notice, Poole gained the points and an overall victory by 2 points. End of story. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,935 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Poole won by 2 after gifting the final heat, would have been a totally different race If it was not a dead rubber. Edited December 14, 2015 by Morrissey Fan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackadder 280 Posted December 14, 2015 If it was a mistake it isn't cheating is it but his mistake should be punished because it is against the rules, if the referee was awake he would have told Newman that not wearing goggles was against the rules and put him off 15 metres. The Clerk of the Course or the Start Marshall have a much better chance of checking that goggles, gloves etc are being worn. The Referee would find it very difficult to verify from the box that goggles are being worn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 15, 2015 The Clerk of the Course or the Start Marshall have a much better chance of checking that goggles, gloves etc are being worn. The Referee would find it very difficult to verify from the box that goggles are being worn.It was obvious there was a problem for all to see even the referee and the start marshall probably didnt know the rule therefore the referee should have asked him to check. The guys on the tv could see it but the referee couldnt! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted December 15, 2015 The Newman saga is history, time to move on people 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poole Quay 7 616 Posted December 15, 2015 The Newman saga is history, time to move on people Totally agree. But of course they won't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TesarRacing 1,825 Posted December 15, 2015 The Newman saga is history, time to move on people Totally agree. But of course they won't. I agree too! Statman says if we want to post on the Poole thread we have to be constructive!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 15, 2015 In any case, Kyle Newman imposed a fine on himself in the final as he donated his goggles to the Belle Vue Fans on the 1st/2nd bend at Wimborne Road. A very constructive gesture imho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.V 72 1,054 Posted December 15, 2015 In any case, Kyle Newman imposed a fine on himself in the final as he donated his goggles to the Belle Vue Fans on the 1st/2nd bend at Wimborne Road. A very constructive gesture imho. Was that during a race or after the meeting you never know with Newman he seems a little laps with any rules that concern Goggles lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 15, 2015 Was that during a race or after the meeting you never know with Newman he seems a little laps with any rules that concern Goggles lol. Why do you ask, surely you were there or watching on tv! Middlo was also taking the mick with his goggle impressions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.V 72 1,054 Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Why do you ask, surely you were there or watching on tv! Middlo was also taking the mick with his goggle impressions! Why do you ask, surely you were there or watching on tv! Middlo was also taking the mick with his goggle impressions! The lol at the end of my post states that my post was of a humourous nature just like Skidders post and Newmans actions were. Edited December 15, 2015 by B.V 72 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
