waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 12, 2015 Various meetings in Australia is exactly what is currently used?!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 12, 2015 Various meetings in Australia is exactly what is currently used?!? Qualifying Meetings I meant. A set of Meetings which would be run to get Riders qualified to ride over here. Say five Meetings at five different Tracks and the top five or ten or whatever number you like qualify to ride in Britain. It is only an idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 12, 2015 How would that be better than the current system of running six different meetings which riders can qualify from? Who would go to watch these extra meetings, and how would it be better than the current system? What it should be IMHO is the top "x" from the aussie final plus those who have met the required averages . Top 4 from state is ludicrous 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 12, 2015 How would that be better than the current system of running six different meetings which riders can qualify from? Who would go to watch these extra meetings, and how would it be better than the current system? What it should be IMHO is the top "x" from the aussie final plus those who have met the required averages . Top 4 from state is ludicrous Basically it would be exactly the same Riders in all of the Meetings. Hope that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted December 12, 2015 It's called the Australian Senior Solo Speedway Championship, held over 4 rounds this year, from which the top 8 or so should be made visa eligible, the number of qualifiers being adjusted to reflect the number of top riders not bothering to enter. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Basically it would be exactly the same Riders in all of the Meetings. Hope that helps. And that differs from the current aussie individual championship how? Edited December 13, 2015 by waihekeaces1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozrik 23 Posted December 14, 2015 Are there similar 'qualification' requirements placed on other foreign riders. Australia and GB have a long history of flexible visa and working arrangements. Why make this stipulation now. It borders on discrimination. Laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reviresco 708 Posted December 14, 2015 Other than requirements for Australian riders, eligibility for the Sponsored Migrants Policy are stated currently as: Argentinian International Championships – Winner Canadian Individual Championships – Winner New Zealand Individual Championships – WinnerRussian Individual Championships – Top 4South African National Championships – WinnerUkrainian Individual Championships – WinnerUnited States Individual AMA Championships – Top 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,955 Posted December 14, 2015 Are there similar 'qualification' requirements placed on other foreign riders. Australia and GB have a long history of flexible visa and working arrangements. Why make this stipulation now. It borders on discrimination. Laughable. Australia actually poses reasonably strict requirements on Brits wanting to work there. British and Australian speedway are also not really comparable in terms of employment prospects. You can't make a living riding speedway in Australia, so a few European riders going over for a 2 or 3-month working holiday cannot really be said to be taking employment away from the locals. In fact, they probably help bolster the meetings in many cases. By contrast, Britain has a professional speedway set-up offering 8 months of fairly regular employment, and it's not unreasonable that if Australia has restrictions on Brits working there, then speedway should not be exempted as a professional industry. I'd have no problem with reciprocal working rights between the UK, Australia and New Zealand (after a certain qualification period), but given the fuss about immigration in both countries, I can't see that happening any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Are there similar 'qualification' requirements placed on other foreign riders. Australia and GB have a long history of flexible visa and working arrangements. Why make this stipulation now. It borders on discrimination. Laughable. It's hardly discrimination. Anyone from a non-EU country needs a work permit to work in the UK. Lawyer, banker or speedway rider. Frankly the fact we let them into the PL at all they should be thankful as them riding in the PL really doesn't meet the basic criteria for work permits of being the very best etc. You can apply for a Tier 2 (Sportsperson) visa if all of the following apply: you’re an elite sportsperson or qualified coach recognised by your sport’s governing body as internationally established at the highest level your sport’s governing body is endorsing your application your employment will develop your sport in the UK at the highest level you’re from outside the European Economic Area (EEA) and Switzerland you meet the other eligibility requirements Edited December 14, 2015 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 14, 2015 And that differs from the current aussie individual championship how? You can be pedantic at times. My suggestion is for Riders who are of Premier League standard or worse. NOT Australian Champions. They would be riding in order to qualify to race here - not win Championships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted December 14, 2015 You can be pedantic at times. My suggestion is for Riders who are of Premier League standard or worse. NOT Australian Champions. They would be riding in order to qualify to race here - not win Championships. You can be a bit stupid at times. Just look at scb's post.....and anyway,why would we want to hold meetings for riders who are "of PL standard or worse" ??????? Beyond belief from someone who is always moaning about immigrants to be honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 14, 2015 You can be a bit stupid at times. Just look at scb's post.....and anyway,why would we want to hold meetings for riders who are "of PL standard or worse" ??????? Beyond belief from someone who is always moaning about immigrants to be honest (Sigh) .................................. and you can be tasteless at times - but I don't let that bother me so you will just have to put up with my stupidity I'm afraid. Because we are talking about bringing over untried Australians. If we had a Competition as I suggest - the very top Riders of said Competition would qualify to come here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted December 14, 2015 (Sigh) .................................. and you can be tasteless at times - but I don't let that bother me so you will just have to put up with my stupidity I'm afraid. Because we are talking about bringing over untried Australians. If we had a Competition as I suggest - the very top Riders of said Competition would qualify to come here. You are talking Pl standard or worse!!! That is hardly "the very top Riders" Make your mind up.The Australian championship does the job without trying to make some other competition up that probably the authorities wouldn't even recognise,the public wouldn't flock to and you might find it hard for a promoter to host .It just doesn't make sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted December 14, 2015 You are talking Pl standard or worse!!! That is hardly "the very top Riders" Make your mind up.The Australian championship does the job without trying to make some other competition up that probably the authorities wouldn't even recognise,the public wouldn't flock to and you might find it hard for a promoter to host .It just doesn't make sense The only thing I can add to what I have aready said is that I was talking about new untried Australian Riders - not the Stars. It was only an idea to find the best of young Australian talent for our Premier League. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites