Hamish McRaker 601 Posted August 28, 2017 Use whatever language you like, he had to withdraw from the meeting. Nothing to see here, move along. Maybe he shouldn't have accepted the booking in the first place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil bv 9 Posted August 28, 2017 He lent Kenneth an engine not a bike. https://twitter.com/kenneth_bjerre/status/902090168471093248 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted August 29, 2017 Use whatever language you like, he had to withdraw from the meeting. Nothing to see here, move along. Maybe he shouldn't have accepted the booking in the first placeOr maybe Somerset shouldn't have booked him knowing he had another meeting first where there was the risk of injury?Though you could argue it makes sense to use a rider already there and who should be dialled in to the conditions. Just one of those things. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted August 29, 2017 Lasse Bjerre was booked to ride for Somerset in the second meeting tonight at Swindon. It seems he has refused to ride forcing Somerset to go with 5 riders only with no rider at number two. He is at the track. Thoughts? Is it up to him or has he let Somerset down? Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penchev 342 Posted August 29, 2017 Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners Is there not a difference betwween refusing to ride? or giving a valid excuse? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 29, 2017 Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners The problem with giving him a "bit of slack" is it sets a precedent. It opens up the door for any rider in the future to refuse to ride because he has no usable equipment. He should be reported, the SCB should consider all the evidence and make a ruling. If they decide his actions were justified and no further action is taken - fine. That at least would mean in the future any rider refusing to ride would know his actions would be subject to scrutiny. If no action is taken I can foresee a scenario where a rider considers a track to be dangerous, has no medical issue so cannot get a certificate but somehow manages to render his bike unusable and refuses to ride. That must never be allowed to happen. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honey Monster 47 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) So did he have a medical certificate? If he accepted a guest booking for the second meeting in a double header he should have prepared for the possibility of damaged bikes. Riders are meant to be professionals which means having the equipment to fulfil their commitments. That might sound harsh but paying fans are the ones suffering. Depends on the timing of the guest booking. If it was on the day, not much could have been done re equipment. If it was earlier, then maybe. What would Somerset supporters say if he went out on knackered machinery and ran 3, 0's. Or borrowed some equipment and wrote it off. Don't think Somerset would have been prepared to foot the repair bills. Edited August 29, 2017 by Honey Monster 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Ace 5 Posted August 29, 2017 Bring back the Track Spare 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted August 29, 2017 The problem with giving him a "bit of slack" is it sets a precedent. It opens up the door for any rider in the future to refuse to ride because he has no usable equipment. He should be reported, the SCB should consider all the evidence and make a ruling. If they decide his actions were justified and no further action is taken - fine. That at least would mean in the future any rider refusing to ride would know his actions would be subject to scrutiny. If no action is taken I can foresee a scenario where a rider considers a track to be dangerous, has no medical issue so cannot get a certificate but somehow manages to render his bike unusable and refuses to ride. That must never be allowed to happen. We never had this scenario years ago, we took a man's word for any discrepancy, Riders turned up and rode, if their bikes broke down they used the track spare, or borrowed his mates. When you talk about setting presidents, getting Doctor certificates , going before a commettee. what impression does that give... No wonder our sport is all but dead. It has no trust, no belief or integrity, and everyone wants to argue every point..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 29, 2017 We never had this scenario years ago, we took a man's word for any discrepancy, Riders turned up and rode, if their bikes broke down they used the track spare, or borrowed his mates. When you talk about setting presidents, getting Doctor certificates , going before a commettee. what impression does that give... No wonder our sport is all but dead. It has no trust, no belief or integrity, and everyone wants to argue every point..... I don't disagree that years ago the speedway world was better ..it was certainly different However we live in today's world. A world where some, and I emphasis some, riders seem happy for any excuse not to ride on a track they don't like for whatever reason. Fans who pay good money deserve to know that everything that can be done to provide the paid for entertainment will be done. If that means going thro all the disciplinary route so be it. It's nothing personal against Bjerre, I do not know enough about him to form an opinion as to his trust, belief or integrity. I'd say the same whoever the rider. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted August 29, 2017 Hang on a minute. Has Somerset management said anything yet or has this been started off by some trigger-happy twitface 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulboy 169 Posted August 29, 2017 Belle Vue had a back up for tonight. Professional approach. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. They weren't very professional when they were at Somerset a few weeks ago! I cannot believe Lasse would have cried off without very good reason, he was there with money to be made, no point in him not riding unless he couldn't! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 29, 2017 There is of course another aspect to all this. Will Somerset be fined for fielding an understrength side? That might be seen as unfair as they had done all they could to ensure a full team. What effect will this have on paying customers (was a very big crowd from all accounts) who are not regulars, will they be impressed....I doubt it. That will affect Swindon and possibly Somerset in the future. A team down to 4 riders has happened twice now in the space of a week. After last week at Lynn folk were saying it couldn't happen again!. Injuries cannot be accounted for that's accepted but whose responsibility is it to ensure fans see a full team performing on track. It could be argued that Somerset should have ensured there was a bike available for a guest to use, or Swindon (of the staging club of a double header) should ensure machinery is available or should the onus be on the rider. Whichever it is the long suffering paying customer is the one that suffers. Maybe double headers should only be allowed if a substitute Guest rider is on standby and also spare machinery, provided by the staging club. Personally I'd ban double headers, they should not be needed in an 8 team league with 24 weeks to fit fixtures into. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junior fan 132 Posted August 29, 2017 Yes, he did have a fall and a retirement but finished with a second, maybe he's caught this 24hr injury bug that seems to be going the rounds (last seen at KL)? You have the 24 hr idiot bug, oh wait you've had it all your life. Junior Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norfolk Bear 250 Posted August 29, 2017 Yet another example of a thread started purely to assassinate a riders behaviour. Lasse Bjerre is usually very reliable, and him not riding must have been a real let down. But judging from all the information on here, both his bikes were not rideable, he had injuries that didn't help. I say give the chap a bit of slack, he's not that bad person who normally lets people down' if it could be helped.... The amount of meetings held this weekend,, it was inevitable some riders would have problems with crashes and machinery. If there is any fault here, it should be directed to the fixture planners Lasse Bjerre reliable, you are having a laugh , he fell out with another rider at Redcar last season & then proceeded to drop his average from 8.5 to 6.5 with 2017 in mind. That's reliable.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites