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We will find out in the next few days whether the BSPA deem it in the best interests of British Speedway to set an average that allows JPB to be signed up by the Brummies for next year.

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JPB should've been first name down imo ! Having said that, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes....I'm sure the 'new' boss wants to put his own mark on things!

It looks like we'll miss out on him this season though!

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Exactly, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe he's been getting lessons on how to act as a big fish in a small pond and how to act like the next superstar by playing the clubs off against each other...maybe?

 

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58 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

Exactly, we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe he's been getting lessons on how to act as a big fish in a small pond and how to act like the next superstar by playing the clubs off against each other...maybe?

 

I think most likely that he's hoping for a big sponsorship deal which he needs in order for him to take his career to the next level?

And to be fair....he is a 'massive' fish in a very small pond imo......he's the future of British speedway !

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2 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

And to be fair....he is a 'massive' fish in a very small pond imo......he's the future of British speedway !

Also to be fair ... one of several.

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he's the future of British speedway !

Thats a heavy burden for one so young to be asked to carry the future of British speedway all on his own.:D

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On 13/12/2017 at 9:10 PM, pete cc said:

he's the future of British speedway !

Thats a heavy burden for one so young to be asked to carry the future of British speedway all on his own.:D

As I said on another thread, the likes of Bartosz Zmarzlik, Maceij Janowski, Patryk Dudek, and the Pawlicki brothers were cuttung their teeth at the deep end from age 16 in Poland. The result is that Poland won the SWC with effectively an u23 team. Not to mention the success of their u21 team in their own event. I dare say that if the Poles put out an u19 or even an u17 team they would wipe the floor with all comers in those age groups too. That's what British riders need to emulate. Being up there with the best in the world, not the toddlers who get races stopped after half a lap because they can't stay on their bikes.  It's no good wrapping them up in cotton wool and making them nice and comfortable in the kindergarten league. These young men need to mature improve and develop in a competitive environment that challenges them and improves them...all the way to the top.

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You do have to laugh a little bit when you read the nonsense often written about GB kids as they come through..

I was lucky enough to watch Joe Screen make his debut and the subsequent next few years where as a 16 -19 year old he rode against, and often beat,  the very best riders in the World, who at the time remember,  all rode in Britain every week. .

Joe went on to reach Number Six in the World.  No mean achievement but not 'World Beating'..

Nowadays some 16 year old kid who can ride well in the NL and hold down a place at reserve or at best second string in the lowest ever standard Championship and Premiership is considered by some a potential world beater...

The reality is somewhat different..

 

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5 hours ago, mikebv said:

You do have to laugh a little bit when you read the nonsense often written about GB kids as they come through..

I was lucky enough to watch Joe Screen make his debut and the subsequent next few years where as a 16 -19 year old he rode against, and often beat,  the very best riders in the World, who at the time remember,  all rode in Britain every week. .

Joe went on to reach Number Six in the World.  No mean achievement but not 'World Beating'..

Nowadays some 16 year old kid who can ride well in the NL and hold down a place at reserve or at best second string in the lowest ever standard Championship and Premiership is considered by some a potential world beater...

The reality is somewhat different..

 

While that is true, what British speedway need if it is to survive is a dozen  riders like Joe Jacobs and Stefan Nielsen. Paul Starke is as great example of a rider who took quite a long time to make the grade (which he did through hard work) that most supporters would be happy to see in their team. 

Up and coming riders don't need unrealistic expectations to live up to, equally they need to be given the space to learn at their own speed.

One Dan Bewley is a bonus.

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2 minutes ago, arnieg said:

While that is true, what British speedway need if it is to survive is a dozen  riders like Joe Jacobs and Stefan Nielsen. Paul Starke is as great example of a rider who took quite a long time to make the grade (which he did through hard work) that most supporters would be happy to see in their team. 

Up and coming riders don't need unrealistic expectations to live up to, equally they need to be given the space to learn at their own speed.

One Dan Bewley is a bonus.

If you are a fan of third league speedway and think that the future is in being third rate, then that's fine. Personally I'd like to see British speedway dining at the top table again. That means that the third league should only ever be a stepping stone onto greater things, that there should be no comfort zone, and that the cream be allowed to float to the top and not cheese-out at the lowest levels of the sport.

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But what does this (and your previous post) mean? What exactly are you proposing?

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The relevance to this thread goes back to the second post. If JPB is not wearing the big red B next year, then we shoudn't mourn him. Let's hope for his sake and for the sake of the sport he can find his feet in the CL for 2018, to accept and flourish in his new environment and to continue to improve, which he'd be unlikely to do when faced with inferior opposition in the third league.

We have a 39 point limit, and lets hope that this opens the door to budding new talent to be signed that can also progress, and when they outgrow the NL and fly the nest, let that be with our best wishes, not with some kind of resentment that the Brummies have lost a star.

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