arnieg 3,713 Posted October 30, 2007 Last winter there was much debate about the impact of the Russian League's increased use of (and payments to) foreign riders. So what actually happened? Well in 42 league matches 23 foreigners appeared. But 16 of these were Poles and only six rode more than three times. Only Darius Sledz (8 - Vostock) and Pawel Miesac (7 - Rovno) rode in more than half of their team's 12 fixtures. Next came: Peter Karlsson 5 (SK Turbina) Greg Walasek 5 (SK Turbina) Kjaustas Puodzjoks 4 (Rov) Piotr Protasiewicz 4 (SK Turbina) The other non-Poles to ride were: Sullivan (3 for SK), Hancock (Mega-Lada), Richardson (SK), Ferjan (Rov) all 2 and Nikki Pedersen 1 for Mega-Lada Rovno - 5 riders making 18 appearances, and SK Turbina - 5 riders making 17 appearances used most foreigners Salavat used none at all (and came bottom) while Luk-Oil and Mega-Lada used three riders who made just six appearances between them. Mega-Lada won the league on the basis of their indigenous riders (they regularly tracked six Russian born riders who averaged over 8), they only bought in big name foreigners for crunch matches. SK Turbina came second, and clearly they did buy in foreign strength In recent years the Russian League has been a two horse race between Mega Lada Togliatti and Luk-oil Oktobriasky, but it looks as if Luk oil couldn't (or wouldn't?) compete when it came to attracting foreigners - presumably a money issue. So what happens next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted October 30, 2007 Very good point's, but the people who complain about this the most will never leave the "Elite"-thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subedei 0 Posted October 30, 2007 There's a lot of hype about the Russian league, not least from riders who seem to see it as "leverage" over the existing leagues, Bjarne Pedersen being the latest example supposedly. It remains to be seen whether they find the grass quite so green as they imagine in Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,135 Posted October 30, 2007 Last winter there was much debate about the impact of the Russian League's increased use of (and payments to) foreign riders. So what actually happened? . Mega-Lada won the league on the basis of their indigenous riders (they regularly tracked six Russian born riders who averaged over 8), they only bought in big name foreigners for crunch matches. SK Turbina came second, and clearly they did buy in foreign strength In recent years the Russian League has been a two horse race between Mega Lada Togliatti and Luk-oil Oktobriasky, but it looks as if Luk oil couldn't (or wouldn't?) compete when it came to attracting foreigners - presumably a money issue. So what happens next? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is what i said last winter.And i think one or two others said the same.Don't believe the hype was really what a few of us were saying.If there are only a couple of teams with big money,why would they need to employ the top riders for every meeting?They wouldn't,because they can beat the poorer teams with their home stars.The only way it would make sense to use Nicki or Hancock for every meeting is if media interest or big crowds were going to be paying out enough to cover it. Very good point's, but the people who complain about this the most will never leave the "Elite"-thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is so true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 15 Posted October 30, 2007 So did Ryan make his 50k then? If he did, fair play to him, 50k for 15 minutes work is quite impressive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liverstam 0 Posted October 31, 2007 Thank you very much arnieg for putting this together. Very useful post! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niclas 5 Posted October 31, 2007 Last winter there was much debate about the impact of the Russian League's increased use of (and payments to) foreign riders. So what actually happened? Well in 42 league matches 23 foreigners appeared. But 16 of these were Poles and only six rode more than three times. Only Darius Sledz (8 - Vostock) and Pawel Miesac (7 - Rovno) rode in more than half of their team's 12 fixtures. Next came: Peter Karlsson 5 (SK Turbina) Greg Walasek 5 (SK Turbina) Kjaustas Puodzjoks 4 (Rov) Piotr Protasiewicz 4 (SK Turbina) The other non-Poles to ride were: Sullivan (3 for SK), Hancock (Mega-Lada), Richardson (SK), Ferjan (Rov) all 2 and Nikki Pedersen 1 for Mega-Lada Rovno - 5 riders making 18 appearances, and SK Turbina - 5 riders making 17 appearances used most foreigners Salavat used none at all (and came bottom) while Luk-Oil and Mega-Lada used three riders who made just six appearances between them. Mega-Lada won the league on the basis of their indigenous riders (they regularly tracked six Russian born riders who averaged over 8), they only bought in big name foreigners for crunch matches. SK Turbina came second, and clearly they did buy in foreign strength In recent years the Russian League has been a two horse race between Mega Lada Togliatti and Luk-oil Oktobriasky, but it looks as if Luk oil couldn't (or wouldn't?) compete when it came to attracting foreigners - presumably a money issue. So what happens next? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Arnieg: I hope you dont mind but I copied you post and published it in MasarnaAvestas guestbook (probably the place where most of the speedwaydebates in Sweden are located www.masarnaavesta.nu/gastbok.cgi ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niklos 0 Posted November 5, 2007 Change of rules of the Russian league on 2008. in one race, for one command, an only one foreigner is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niklos 0 Posted November 6, 2007 In recent years the Russian League has been a two horse race between Mega Lada Togliatti and Luk-oil Oktobriasky, but it looks as if Luk oil couldn't (or wouldn't?) compete when it came to attracting foreigners - presumably a money issue. So what happens next? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LUK in 2007 small budget. In 2008 will not be less. Can be more. Vostock in 2008 budget will be less. Salavat in 2008 promises the big budget. 2008 SK Turbina and Mega-Lada the big budgets. 2008 STMK Turbina and Rovno–???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 15 Posted November 6, 2007 That's the end of all the big pay days and the "beginning of the end" for British speedway!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollyanna 1 Posted November 7, 2007 Change of rules of the Russian league on 2008. in one race, for one command, an only one foreigner is possible.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Niklos, does it mean that only one foreign rider can be in a team ? And do you mean a foreign rider can only ride in one race in a match? I don't quite understand...sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,135 Posted November 7, 2007 Think he is saying only one foreign rider per team,per meeting.Command is the translation you end up with from the Russian "team" when i have used online translation stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,713 Posted November 7, 2007 Think he is saying only one foreign rider per team,per meeting.Command is the translation you end up with from the Russian "team" when i have used online translation stuff <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 'Command' is actually the Russian word for team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollyanna 1 Posted November 8, 2007 'Command' is actually the Russian word for team <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for the explanation, iris and arnieg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pollyanna 1 Posted November 8, 2007 Can someone please tell us more about the Russian Leagues? How many teams are there? Do they all ride regularly, say once a week? Once a month? Once every 2 weeks? When does the season start.....and end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
