no-brakes-uk 76 Posted December 22, 2008 13 - DAVID BLACKBURN (Belle Vue, Berwick, Boston, Glasgow, Leicester, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Milton Keynes, Newcastle, Reading, Sheffield, Swindon, Workington) 8 - MARK LORAM Update: 14 - DAVID BLACKBURN (Belle Vue, Berwick, Berwick II, Boston, Glasgow, Leicester, Long Eaton, Middlesborough, Milton Keynes, Newcastle, Reading, Sheffield, Swindon, Workington) 10 - MARK LORAM (Arena Essex, Bradford, Eastbourne, Exeter, Hackney, Ipswich, King's Lynn, Peterborough, Poole, Wolverhampton) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redneck 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Hows about Mike Sampson Romford, West Ham, Barrow, Eastbourne, Exeter, White City, Cradley Heath, Nottingham, Stoke = 9 Terry Kelly Rochdale, Ellesmere Port, Scunthorpe, Barrow, Workington, Berwick, Glasgow, Belle Vue = 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted May 5, 2009 15 - MARK BURROWS (Belle Vue, Buxton, Cleveland (Boro II), Cleveland (Redcar II), Coventry, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Hull, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Stoke, Stoke Spitfires, Wimbledon) Another club to be added to Buzz's list: as of last week, he's been a Weymouth rider - so that's club number 16!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Butler 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Another club to be added to Buzz's list: as of last week, he's been a Weymouth rider - so that's club number 16!!! Sweet sixteen for Mr Burrows - the man with the itchy clutch lever! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted May 5, 2009 Sweet sixteen for Mr Burrows - the man with the itchy clutch lever! It is TWENTY-FIVE years since his track debut (for Scunny...) though, so 16's not so bad...!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 5, 2009 Buzz also did a four-match stint for Oxford in 1997. These are often put down as guest appearences, but I don't believe they were. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted May 5, 2009 Buzz also did a four-match stint for Oxford in 1997. These are often put down as guest appearences, but I don't believe they were. All the best Rob Interesting!! I agree that I don't see how a four-match stint (was that four in a row..??) can be classified as a 'guest'...? After all we've been 'allowed' to include the single matches for Hull & Coventry so Oxford deserves inclusion surely... What exactly is or was the 'rule' when defining an appearance from a rider from a lower division appearing for a higher division team..? To me that's never a 'Guest' appearance at least not in the sense of a 'like-for-like' within a division.. Certainly Mr. Oakes didn't use that classification in his books... But nowadays I notice this is used as an expression... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Interesting!! I agree that I don't see how a four-match stint (was that four in a row..??) can be classified as a 'guest'...? After all we've been 'allowed' to include the single matches for Hull & Coventry so Oxford deserves inclusion surely... What exactly is or was the 'rule' when defining an appearance from a rider from a lower division appearing for a higher division team..? To me that's never a 'Guest' appearance at least not in the sense of a 'like-for-like' within a division.. Certainly Mr. Oakes didn't use that classification in his books... But nowadays I notice this is used as an expression... Burrows is also just 10 years short of equaling Wal Morton's 35 years as a rider - and I think Jimmy Squibb may have bettered that. If Burrows does keep going to emulate their longevity it would mean that he'll still be riding in 2019!! Edited May 5, 2009 by speedyguy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) This has been an enduring thread which has brought to the fore a number of riders who have graced Speedway Racing over many years and many Clubs, a lot of the riders would probably not have been mentioned otherwise, but they have played a part in the history of the Clubs & Leagues concerned and deserve mention for that fact. Well done to Steve and the other posters who have joined in to make this so interesting Edited May 5, 2009 by star ghost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted May 6, 2009 Can't remember who it was instead of, but I'm sure Wolves had Buzz Burrows for about a month too after injuries wrecked the team. It may have been 1993 when we rode some matches with only two Wolves riders and the rest made up of guests, r/r and juniors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozyace 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Here's the latest update... [9 - STEVE JOHNSTON (Arena, Belle Vue, Coventry, Ipswich, Long Eaton, Oxford, Sheffield, Swindon, Wolves) [/b] You can now add Somerset to Johnny Jonski's list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moggo 3 Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Hi All Just found this Topic I only ever did a guest appearance for Bradford and Wolves, so you can take them off of the list Alan Edited May 10, 2009 by Moggo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,094 Posted May 11, 2009 Hi All Just found this Topic I only ever did a guest appearance for Bradford and Wolves, so you can take them off of the list Alan Is that really you, mate? Last time I saw you, you never had a computer, and didn't know anything about them! Anyway, thanks for the info. Hope you're enjoying your retirement. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted May 14, 2009 QUOTE (chunky @ Mar 22 2008, 08:02 AM) 15 - MARK BURROWS (Belle Vue, Buxton, Cleveland (Boro II), Cleveland (Redcar II), Coventry, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Hull, Long Eaton, Middlesbrough, Scunthorpe, Sheffield, Stoke, Stoke Spitfires, Wimbledon) Was Buzz officially on Hull's books, I just remember him guesting on a few occasions in 1997, I think it was.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,094 Posted May 14, 2009 Was Buzz officially on Hull's books, I just remember him guesting on a few occasions in 1997, I think it was.... This is now the problem. Guest appearances aren't - or shouldn't be - included in official figures, yet Moggo comes on here and claims that some of his so-called "official" appearances were simply guest rides. Now, you say the same with Buzz. That throws new doubt on some of the infrequent appearances in a number of cases. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
