garf 0 Posted June 5, 2009 Hya everyone! For a few years ago there were some fuzz about controls of the engines in the UK. I believe Jesper B. Jensen (now Monberg) was one of the main contributors together with Poole. Was'nt it something about the diameter of the carburettor? I can't remember. But I believe he was innocent. Has anything similar been up since ? What about the the GPs ? Is there a proper control of the bikes participating in the GPs ? Some rumours is circulating that Tony R. always were riding on another bike in the final as in the other heats as it usually was the bike from last heat being examined. What about the size of the engine. Will it give any advantage to the rider having 50-60 Cc extra ? Anyone knows anything about this ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted June 5, 2009 (edited) yes there is. At the Ullevi GP Swedish Tomas Soldin from Eskilstuna was the technical steward (chief of the scrutineering team). I dont know who has is duties on the other GPs. http://folket.se/sportfolket/speedway/1.370607 Edited June 5, 2009 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garf 0 Posted June 5, 2009 Thanks "Ghostwalker" But is there any rules that says that the bikes has to be controlled after a race, or is it only on suspecion ? How easy is it to cheat ? There are so much focus on doping but is there any focus on the mechanic side at all ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mateusz 0 Posted June 5, 2009 I guess that only NP can ask Ole to check the engines of his evil and cheating rivals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garf 0 Posted June 6, 2009 I guess that only NP can ask Ole to check the engines of his evil and cheating rivals. hehehehe I don't think NP will ask Ole for anything. Seems to they are not conversating, only shouting (NP). . . . . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted June 6, 2009 I'm pretty sure that the bike checks are more serious at GPs than they are at UK league matches. I'm not sure what checks they do "post match", but at least a few years ago all bikes were impounded once a rider completed his races in a GP so that they could be checked in any way that was required.....but maybe that was just a formality and only minimal or no checks were done... I'm sure Ole could demand a check on any bike from Nicki's evil rivals if he wanted, but all that would prove was that Nicki hit his rival and wiped them out (I'm joking, before the hate mail arrives.....from Ole's fan club ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spook 28 Posted June 6, 2009 hehehehe I don't think NP will ask Ole for anything. Seems to they are not conversating, only shouting (NP). . . . . . . . so the press releases say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted June 6, 2009 so the press releases say Not just press releases... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,013 Posted June 6, 2009 Thanks "Ghostwalker" But is there any rules that says that the bikes has to be controlled after a race, or is it only on suspecion ? How easy is it to cheat ? There are so much focus on doping but is there any focus on the mechanic side at all ? Hmmm garf.....funny this topic should be brought up,as in Vojens a few weeks back on mentioning a certain young upstarts name i was startled to get a blunt reply back along the lines of this thread .....but i will say no more for fear of death Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) Only just seen this thread. As mentioned elsewhere in this section i've given a link to the rules and regulations in a sticky in the 'General Speedway' section. Possibly the bit you are after is, 077.5.1 Scrutineering At every SGP meeting, verification is compulsory and official FIM specification declaration forms are provided for this purpose. All engines, machines and equipment must be checked in accordance with Art. 070.7.1. The Referee or Race Director may order any engines or machines to be rechecked or re-tested at any time, during practice or racing. Furthermore, the weight of some machines, chosen at random, must also be checked during the meeting. A capacity check is not compulsory as per Art. 070.7.1, but after the last heat, the Referee or Race Director may order an engine capacity check of any engines used in the meeting. The mechanics must present their rider's machines and equipment at the time stipulated in the SR for the machine examination and according to the time stipulated in the individual time schedule. Edited June 9, 2009 by manchesterpaul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spook 28 Posted June 9, 2009 am I wrong in thinking these kind of checks referred to in the last post would require specialised machinery that would not be on site at the gp's? ...... and that it would require the bikes to be taken away at cost, checked at cost and redelivered at cost.......... while no doubt gaining grief from the rider in question ????? It would be extremely interesting to find out an honest account of the process from start to finish politics and all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garf 0 Posted June 11, 2009 The referee MAY order the checks, but are it done in real ? Have anyone ever heard about a check of the bikes after a GP ? Or is the race-director, referee and the FIM in general just to scared of what they might find ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
