speedyguy 20 Posted July 10, 2009 The league ran in 1938 but fixtures were never completed. Eastbourne won the most matches so were 'declared' as champions. Other teams in the league were Rye House, Dagenham, Romford and Smallford. Reserach is underway on http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway where basic teams for Eastbourne and Rye House and a few known results are given. Any more help in regard to the league, complete teams, and points scorers would be appreciated at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 943 Posted July 10, 2009 The league ran in 1938 but fixtures were never completed. Eastbourne won the most matches so were 'declared' as champions. Other teams in the league were Rye House, Dagenham, Romford and Smallford. Reserach is underway on http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway where basic teams for Eastbourne and Rye House and a few known results are given. Any more help in regard to the league, complete teams, and points scorers would be appreciated at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Were High Beech not also involved ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted July 10, 2009 Were High Beech not also involved ? High Beech were invited to take part but declined at the last moment. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted July 10, 2009 The league ran in 1938 but fixtures were never completed. Eastbourne won the most matches so were 'declared' as champions. Other teams in the league were Rye House, Dagenham, Romford and Smallford. Both Dagenham & Romford rode out of the Dagenham track...: which stood a stone's throw from where I know live on Ripple Road... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted July 10, 2009 Both Dagenham & Romford rode out of the Dagenham track...: which stood a stone's throw from where I know live on Ripple Road... Thanks. Do you have the team squads for either side please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,036 Posted July 10, 2009 Thanks. Do you have the team squads for either side please? Homes of British Speedway mentions that 2 riders were killed during training sessions that season at dagenham.Harry Rogers and David Jackson.Presumably home riders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted July 10, 2009 Homes of British Speedway mentions that 2 riders were killed during training sessions that season at dagenham.Harry Rogers and David Jackson.Presumably home riders? I have been told that Frank Hodgson was Dagenham's captain and that Alvin 'Spike' Rhiando could also have been in the Daggers team squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks. Do you have the team squads for either side please? Bloomin' 'eck..: sorry, no...!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 11, 2009 The full results of the league (after extensive research at the Newspaper Library, Colindale) are as follows: Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Easbourne 43 Dagenham 44 Romford 39 Dagenham 56 Romford 26 Dagenham 26 Rye House 56 Dagenham 49 Smallford 33 Eastbourne 57 Dagenham 27 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 53 Romford 23 Eastbourne 56 Rye House 27 Eastbourne 46 Rye House 34 Eastbourne 55 Smallford 28 Eastbourne 51 Smallford 32 Romford 40 Dagenham 43 Romford 46 Eastbourne 33 Romford 26 Rye House 56 Romford 40 Smallford 42 Rye House 29 Eastbourne 52 Rye House 44 Smallford 39 Smallford 55 Eastbourne 27 Smallford 51 Rye House 33 The rest of the matches were not run and the league was never completed. Dagenham's leading riders in the league were Frank Hodgson (captain), Jim Baylais, Crusty Pye and Nobby Stock. Jack Tidbury was Romford' star rider. The Smallford team was Doug Wells (captain), Archie Windmill, Ken Tidbury, Percy Brine, Dick Geary, Charlie Appleby, Steve Bullivant, Harry Bower, Bob Wells and Cyril Brine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted July 11, 2009 Dagenham 56 Romford 26 Romford 40 Dagenham 43 What I would give now for Speedway matches between teams from these two towns... I notice Dagenham never took on Rye House away. Perhaps it was always cloudy first thing in the morning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted July 11, 2009 The full results of the league (after extensive research at the Newspaper Library, Colindale) are as follows: Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Easbourne 43 Dagenham 44 Romford 39 Dagenham 56 Romford 26 Dagenham 26 Rye House 56 Dagenham 49 Smallford 33 Eastbourne 57 Dagenham 27 Eastbourne 44 Dagenham 39 Eastbourne 53 Romford 23 Eastbourne 56 Rye House 27 Eastbourne 46 Rye House 34 Eastbourne 55 Smallford 28 Eastbourne 51 Smallford 32 Romford 40 Dagenham 43 Romford 46 Eastbourne 33 Romford 26 Rye House 56 Romford 40 Smallford 42 Rye House 29 Eastbourne 52 Rye House 44 Smallford 39 Smallford 55 Eastbourne 27 Smallford 51 Rye House 33 The rest of the matches were not run and the league was never completed. Dagenham's leading riders in the league were Frank Hodgson (captain), Jim Baylais, Crusty Pye and Nobby Stock. Jack Tidbury was Romford' star rider. The Smallford team was Doug Wells (captain), Archie Windmill, Ken Tidbury, Percy Brine, Dick Geary, Charlie Appleby, Steve Bullivant, Harry Bower, Bob Wells and Cyril Brine. Many thanks for this. Great stuff on a near forgotten era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 11, 2009 What I would give now for Speedway matches between teams from these two towns... I notice Dagenham never took on Rye House away. Perhaps it was always cloudy first thing in the morning... Rye House entered the league late in the season and Dagenham/Romford withdrew when Dagenham shut down for a while towards the end of the season. Dagenham's closure was the main reason the league was never completed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miro 9 Posted July 11, 2009 Did Roy Duke ride in this league for Dagenham - I believe he was the track record holder, can anyone confirm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,135 Posted July 11, 2009 I'm not sure if he rode in the league in 1938. In 1936 however, Arthur Warwick set up a training school at Dagenham and instituted a Silver Cup for the best novice of the season. This was raced for every week with points being accumulated each week. Roy Duke came second to Frank Hodgson in this. In 1939, the Speedway News published a list of riders who had been "discovered" at Dagenham. He does not feature on that list, which was: Frank Hodgson, Doug Wells, Jim Baylais, Nobby Stock, Malcolm Craven, Alan Smith, Eric French, Dick Harris, Crusty Pye, Dick Geary, Aussie Powell, Ernie Pawson, Fred Tuck, Jim Boyd, Alf Kain, Benny King, Alex Gray and George Craig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sotonian 610 Posted July 11, 2009 In 1939, the Speedway News published a list of riders who had been "discovered" at Dagenham. He does not feature on that list, which was: Frank Hodgson, Doug Wells, Jim Baylais, Nobby Stock, Malcolm Craven, Alan Smith, Eric French, Dick Harris, Crusty Pye, Dick Geary, Aussie Powell, Ernie Pawson, Fred Tuck, Jim Boyd, Alf Kain, Benny King, Alex Gray and George Craig. I wonder if that is Alf Kaines who went on to ride for Southampton post-war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites