June 203 Posted July 4, 2010 Seems we've been hearing talk of Ty Nelson for ages.......Rob Godfrey during the out of season, then Mr. Machin of Sheffield recently, we've watched him go round the track at Scunny.......yes the lad is good but what a shock to get to our meeting today to find him riding for Rye house.....I agree with Albert yet another Aussie taking a team place in OUR NDL and a disgrace to see him ride as reserve.......makes my blood boil! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BossMan 8 Posted July 4, 2010 Shame on you Mr Silver..Everyone that has seen this lad (Ty Nelson) ride knows what standard of rider he is..he's an aussie and far too good to be messing around in the British Development League...and at reserve too. So another young brit likely to find himself on the sidelines whilst you give this kid chance to shine at a level well below his ability. I've always supported the National League and love to see young british kids progress up the speedway ladder...I now fear for the credibility of this league. Afaik it’s the National League – no where officially does it mention the word development. When Scunny complain to the authorities, TN points will be deducted resulting in a 4 point win for Scunthorpe – simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert 304 Posted July 4, 2010 May as well call it the Aussie Development League and be done with it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WIE-JA 72 Posted July 4, 2010 Afaik it’s the National League – no where officially does it mention the word development. Try looking in the SCB 2010 rulebook. Page 38 about halfway down. Prefer the term National League personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gypilgrim 0 Posted July 4, 2010 Although it was nice to see Tyson Nelson in the flesh (advance notices from the Sheffield forum members seems justified) WTF is he doing at number SEVEN for A National League team !?!?!?!? Madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted July 5, 2010 Firstly why is Ty racing for the Cobras illegal? There's no proof he hasn't got a youth mobility visa, I'm sure he wouldn't have been allowed to race if he had not got one, he was just waiting for his opportunity. Secondly, he is on a 6 point assesed average, replacing David Mason, this means Ben Morley (6.21) has to move out of the resrve berth. The fact that he replaces David Mason also puts paid to the 'replacing a young brit' stuff, if he was I'd be unhappy, what I'm concerned abou now is we may well be developing a young rider for a Premier League rival. I've just got in from this fantastic meeting, which outshone the first by a mile, Ty aside, Shane Hazelden was brilliant for Rye, whilst until his unfortunate crash, Marc owen looked very good too, I hope he is ok as it looked pretty alarming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFatDave 258 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Try looking in the SCB 2010 rulebook. Page 38 about halfway down. Apart from a couple of links in posts on the BSF, do you have any idea of how to access the Rule Book? Its not on the BSPA Website. Prefer the term National Socialist League personally. (Edited for accuracy) Anyone have the scores and scorers for this one, please? Edited July 5, 2010 by BigFatDave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shad176 10 Posted July 5, 2010 POW...young aussie scores monster points on debut for cobras....rocket ben...go back and read your posts on heathens signing...the words two and faced seem appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neil3065 21 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Seems we've been hearing talk of Ty Nelson for ages.......Rob Godfrey during the out of season, then Mr. Machin of Sheffield recently, we've watched him go round the track at Scunny.......yes the lad is good but what a shock to get to our meeting today to find him riding for Rye house.....I agree with Albert yet another Aussie taking a team place in OUR NDL and a disgrace to see him ride as reserve.......makes my blood boil! Somehow I doubt you'd be quite so bothered about it if he'd been riding at reserve for the Saints.....!!! :blink Edited July 5, 2010 by neil3065 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert 304 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Somehow I doubt you'd be quite so bothered about it if he'd been riding at reserve for the Saints.....!!! :blink Absolute Twaddle!...Perhaps wouldn't mind him in the Scorpions team...but definately not the Saints. We believe in our young british kids and take much pride in watching them develope. Edited July 5, 2010 by Albert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
June 203 Posted July 5, 2010 Somehow I doubt you'd be quite so bothered about it if he'd been riding at reserve for the Saints.....!!! :blink Absolute rubbish! don't be so childish. If he was british and on an average of about 9 or as Albert said in the PL, BUT not in the NL, at reserve and getting 7 rides. Rye house have nothing to be proud of in beating the Scunny youngsters ( without buzz ) so you cannot throw that at us. You are mistaken by thinking I'm jealous.I AM NOT!......Just want to see our own kids getting the help they should get. I really wish promoters would all sing from the same hymn book! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Somehow I doubt you'd be quite so bothered about it if he'd been riding at reserve for the Saints.....!!! :blink What a load of crap,fact is he wasnt at Reserve for the saints,and the way scunny build teams,even if the lad was in,he would be heat leader,not reserve I seem scuny were riding under protest and i think Jaynes posts further back on this thread about the holiday type visa is correct One other thing about Aussie lads in the league is how the hell do they go in the PL on a 5 yet NL on a 6 If a brit had an average of 5 in the Pl wouldnt he come in the NL on a 10? Edited July 5, 2010 by montie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikko 181 Posted July 5, 2010 What a load of crap,fact is he wasnt at Reserve for the saints,and the way scunny build teams,even if the lad was in,he would be heat leader,not reserve I seem scuny were riding under protest and i think Jaynes posts further back on this thread about the holiday type visa is correct One other think about Aussie lads in the league is how the hell do they go in the PL on a 5 yet NL on a 6 If a brit had an average of 5 in the Pl wouldnt he come in the NL on a 10? This episode just shows another reason why we should scrap the "development" name in the NDL as this is clearly a third tier with a win at all costs mentality from some promoters and before someone says it, yes I know Mildenhall used Dakota North and then, when he was injured Taylor Poole but but it does not make it right. I wish it wasnt, and I wish British Lads come first but some hope At least we are bringing on local lads Oliver Rayson and Joe Jacobs, and youngsters like Nick Laurence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Stummings 126 Posted July 5, 2010 We never used to have Germans, Danes, Swedes, Poles etc in Division Two, todays PL.Look at it now. Very few Brits and I fear the rebranded CL now the NL could well go the same way. Is the a development league at all now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger MARTIN 128 Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Montie is spot on, i have no problem with these young Australian lads coming into the British league, but give them a cma that is right,now if the lad is on a 6 point assesed average like two faced RocketBen says, can anybody see him going into the PL on a 12 point cma, no way, it seems their is one rule for British lads and another for non British lads, it stinks to me, and who ever is running this should be very proud to see the way he is ruining the sport, he is a disgrace. Edited July 5, 2010 by Roger MARTIN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites