Ipswich 2012

[refereerick 253]

He is still not the man to bring in when you are trying to rebuild the club & build your asset base. In any case i can't understand why everyone seems to be pressing the panic button with the number of rain offs the season is still young.

Neither is Poole as he's a Panthers asset. Would be better to bring in a new young asset on a 7 like Rasmus Jensen.

[Mr Snackette 190]

Neither is Poole as he's a Panthers asset. Would be better to bring in a new young asset on a 7 like Rasmus Jensen.

 

Young Poole is on the Panther's Retained List, but has made it clear he will ride where HE WANTS TO, irrespective of anything else!!!!

 

I haven't seen enough of the lad Jensen to form a meaningful opinion, although apparently he did well at the UEM U21 meeting in Opole last week.

Edited June 11, 2012 by Mr Snackette

[semion 2,192]

The Louis' felt this team was good emough to be there or there abouts, maybe when Lanham starts to fire and Poole is back in harness then it will be all guns blazing. Leave well alone, just get rid of that Nick Simmons

[refereerick 253]

Young Poole is on the Panther's Retained List, but has made it clear he will ride where HE WANTS TO, irrespective of anything else!!!!

 

I haven't seen enough of the lad Jensen to form a meaningful opinion, although apparently he did well at the UEM U21 meeting in Opole last week.

I didn't say Poole wouldn't ride where he wanted or that he didn't want to come back to the Witches, I was replying to Cowboy Cookies post about building young assets up, and as Poole isn't an asset, IMO, Rasmus Jensen would be a good option instead and would become an asset assuming he rode enough matches for the Witches. He's certainly one for the future IMO, and would come in on a 7, very similar to the 6.90 of Poole. Edited June 11, 2012 by refereerick

[Mr Snackette 190]

If young Poole chooses to ride for the Witches for the next 10 years (although there must be a big doubt about that), it matters not on whose Retained List he appears on.

 

This whole "asset base" thing is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and the more perceptive can now see straight through it.

[refereerick 253]

If young Poole chooses to ride for the Witches for the next 10 years (although there must be a big doubt about that), it matters not on whose Retained List he appears on.

 

This whole "asset base" thing is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and the more perceptive can now see straight through it.

That is fine, but if Ipswich wish to continue paying out loan fees for Taylor thats alright too, with your own assets there are no loan fees, unless you loan the rider out and the fee comes the other way.

[ZODIAK 304]

Adding assets is clearly more than "smoke and mirrors", as Ipswich signing King as a club asset a few years ago has earned them some much needed cash recently which we're led to believe was badly needed to solve a cash flow problem.

 

Whilst the asset base is clearly an irritation to Mr Snackette, it's clearly alive and kicking as it has been for several years, with loan fees and transfer fees being paid for rider movement.

 

That isn't going to change anytime soon, so it's understandable why Chris Louis is hell bent on building Ipswich' asset base up.

 

Surely far better to have a team of your own assets with no loan fees paid to other clubs, and assets not used, loaned to others to generate more income, than loan seven riders from other clubs and pay out seven loan fees!

 

We've heard all the "it will only take one rider to challenge the ruling in a court of law for the whole asset system to collapse" tripe for more years than I care to remember and it STILL hasn't happened.

 

They clearly have a rule and an understanding between promotions and riders alike, that they all accept and are happy to continue abiding by.

[Mr Snackette 190]

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.....They clearly have a rule and an understanding between promotions....... and riders alike........

 

Of course promoters continue to perpetuate this myth, it's their own little boys club. The riders will accept it as long, as long as they can continue to do as they like and are not inconvenienced.

[Baldyman 6,243]

The only way Taylor will be back in the team is if he replaces Lanham or Doolan. Can anyone see that happening? People keep going on about improving our asset base, which either means purchasing a rider like Taylor from the horrors, have we got that sort of money? Probably not. So we need to find other riders that haven't ridden here before. Rasmus has been mentioned, so let's look at other young riders involved in under 21's as these are obviously the riders on the up. How about, Mikkel Michelsen, Vaclav Milik, Niclas Porsing, Mikkel B Jensen, he finished ahead of some very good known riders. Maybe they have all been asked, maybe they were all looked into before the season, but I doubt that, maybe none of them want to race in Britain. Maybe they are already destined to race for the pirates or the panthers, as they like good young Danish riders.

Edited June 11, 2012 by Baldyman

[Fromafar 10,476]

The only way Taylor will be back in the team is if he replaces Lanham or Doolan. Can anyone see that happening? People keep going on about improving our asset base, which either means purchasing a rider like Taylor from the horrors, have we got that sort of money? Probably not. So we need to find other riders that haven't ridden here before. Rasmus has been mentioned, so let's look at other young riders involved in under 21's as these are obviously the riders on the up. How about, Mikkel Michelsen, Vaclav Milik, Niclas Porsing, Mikkel B Jensen, he finished ahead of some very good known riders. Maybe they have all been asked, maybe they were all looked into before the season, but I doubt that, maybe none of them want to race in Britain. Maybe they are already destined to race for the pirates or the panthers, as they like good young Danish riders.

Lets face it Premier League probably could not afford the riders you have mentioned even if the did want to ride in UK ,pity as its not that long ago that good young foreigners were desperate to ride in UK at PL level.

[SCB 15]

Is there such a thing as a genuine no2???

Only last week Lanham was being described as riding like a number 2

[strife 153]

He is still not the man to bring in when you are trying to rebuild the club & build your asset base. In any case i can't understand why everyone seems to be pressing the panic button with the number of rain offs the season is still young.

 

Not "everyone", just people who expect instant success and/or have got a grudge against the current promotion, but won't do anything about it.

[Baldyman 6,243]

 

 

Not "everyone", just people who expect instant success and/or have got a grudge against the current promotion, but won't do anything about it.

It's not about instant success though, its about the effort needed to bring success. I've been following the witches for 36 years, so I know its not about instant success.

[Badge 5,152]

Can I ask a question here, probably Mr S or Tsunami may be able to answer it, or at least give an opinion.

 

Now we have Taylor Poole and Dakota North riding for us this year, both were "signed" by the Horrors a few years ago, and yet neither have ever ridden for that team. So how can they be "assets" of a club that has never used them?

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,714]

Can I ask a question here, probably Mr S or Tsunami may bee able to answer it, or at least give an opinion.

 

Now we have Taylor Poole and Dakota North riding for us this year, both were "signed" by the Horrors a few years ago, and yet neither have ever ridden for that team. So how can they be "assets" of a club that has never used them?

I believe Elite League clubs can sign 1 'protected' asset each season who doesn't have to ride the minimum number of meetings in order to be held in their retained list.