salty 2,202 Posted May 26, 2012 Right decision by the ref, whichever way he arrived at it. Got to love Nicki, saying THJ threw it down - I don't know how he keeps his face straight.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 26, 2012 (edited) There are 12 volumes of the FIM rulebook (I won them in a quiz) and such an eventuality is covered. Basically if one (or more) riders have completed the race, then the ref can award the positions based on the positions at the time of the incident. That's waht happened tonight. I wish the SKy TV crew knew the rules, and then there wouldn't be all the confusion on here. All the best Rob I agree with you but Greg had not finished the race. Do it could not be awarded. If Greg had been 30 metres further away then the referee would have been right. One other thing, top 6 covered by 12 points. So all to play for. Edited May 26, 2012 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 26, 2012 Seems like very good refereeing then - it would have an easy reflex to hit the red light button (and unfairly make Greg and THJ go again) but he stayed calm and thus allowed himself to be able to call the fair and just result. I agree with you but Greg had not finished the race. Do it could not be awarded. If Greg had been 30 metres further away then the referee would have been right. One other thing, top 6 covered by 12 points. So all to play for. But Greg did finish as the race was never stopped. Ref then calls result at time of incident that prevented further finishers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 26, 2012 I agree with you but Greg had not finished the race. Do it could not be awarded. If Greg had been 30 metres further away then the referee would have been right. But the race wasn't stopped mate. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted May 26, 2012 There are 12 volumes of the FIM rulebook (I won them in a quiz) and such an eventuality is covered. Basically if one (or more) riders have completed the race, then the ref can award the positions based on the positions at the time of the incident. That's waht happened tonight. If that's what happened tonight, then effectively the rule is the same as allowing races to be awarded if the riders are on the last lap. For example, if a rider was brought off on the first bend of lap 4 then the race could just continue to its conclusion and the race awarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencebel 181 Posted May 26, 2012 Congratulations Freddie... Really enjoyed this GP. Some really good racing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 26, 2012 If that's what happened tonight, then effectively the rule is the same as allowing races to be awarded if the riders are on the last lap. For example, if a rider was brought off on the first bend of lap 4 then the race could just continue to its conclusion and the race awarded. I guess it is similar. The difference at FIM level is that at least one rider has to complete the race before it is stopped. The current rules came about following a very controversial incident in the 1973 World Final, which denied Zenon Plech a place in the run-off for first place. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrandonBomber 10 Posted May 26, 2012 Glad to see Lindgren win his first GP, just a shame i had my money on Lindback to win his first instead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HasseHolmqvist 102 Posted May 26, 2012 Seem white was the place to be !! .... great pass and fair play to Chris Holder who seemed pleased for Freddie getting his first GP win, and ever the gentleman Greg Hancock of course Nicki unlucky to get a bit to much drive coming off the last turn and hit THJ rather than moving him over, still a good night from the 118 118 man tho Good nights racing & welll done FAST Freddie Lindgren Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 26, 2012 But Greg did finish as the race was never stopped. Ref then calls result at time of incident that prevented further finishers. But the race wasn't stopped mate. All the best Rob So who finished 3rd?! Nobody. As THJ never went over the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomhaines 68 Posted May 26, 2012 Good gp, shame my money went on Lindback and Jonasson rather than Lindgren! Spoilt slightly yet again by Pearson and Tatum... So many good races spoilt by what sounded like Tatum going into labour. Any idea on the actual crowd number? Looked poor again but hard to gauge on tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youngy105 16 Posted May 26, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noMUpEBcK-0 The Final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted May 26, 2012 So who finished 3rd?! Nobody. As THJ never went over the line. He doesn't have to. There's so many volumes of the FIM rulebook for me to find it tonight, but it's all in there. As long as the race is completed by at least one competitor, then the ref can award the race based on the positions at the time of the incident. I'm surprised you're taking so long to latch onto this one; you're normally very quick to assimilate the rules. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 26, 2012 So who finished 3rd?! Nobody. As THJ never went over the line. Crump was classified as 3rd and THJ 2nd - neither crossed the line but were declared in those positions by the ref as those were the positions they held when Nicki was rightly excluded and Greg completed the race. Not really very difficult unless of course you happen to be someone that wants to start an arguement in an empty room!! Are you Nicki in disguise!!??!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 3,114 Posted May 26, 2012 SCB, i'm trying to send you a message? Is your inbox full? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
